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|    Lawrence Crowell to Keith Stein    |
|    Re: Flat orbital velocity profiles of sp    |
|    05 May 18 23:57:07    |
      From: goldenfieldquaternions@gmail.com              On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 6:50:09 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:       > I suspect there could be a simple relationship of the form:       >       > ( constant orbital speed )^2 = K * mass of galaxy       >       > I arrive at this by assuming that for spiral galaxies there is, in       > addition to the usual Newtonian inverse square gravitation, an       > additional inverse linear relationship.       >       > At normal distances the linear term is clearly very small and can be       > ignored, but obviously at very large distances the linear term will       > dominate, and at sufficiently large distances the inverse square term       > can be ignored.       >       > At large distance from the galactic center (R) we may therefore write:       >       > Centripetal Force = m * v^2 / R = K * M * m / R       >       > Which gives: v^2 = K * M       >       > Note v is independent of R, so this would nicely explain the       > flat orbital velocity curves of spiral galaxies.       >       > keith stein              To understand the rotation of galaxies and its connection to dark       matter we need to look at Newton's second law of motion with       gravitational              mdp/dt = F = -GMm/r^2              for a mass m around a larger mass M. For a circular motion the force       is F = -mv^2/r = -mw^2r, for w a stand in for omega the angular       frequency. We then derive easily the relationship between the angular       velocity and the radius of the orbit              w^2 = GM/r^3.              This is Kepler's third law.              Now consider the case where the satellite is in a region with a       density D of matter. The mass M above is then M = 4piDr^3/3. We now       use Gauss' law that the force when integrated over the surface       surrounding a region with radius R the mass is then int F*dS.. We       assume complete symmetry and simplify this with letting                     int F*dS = 2piR^2F = 8pi^2GDR.              This means the force is proportional to the radius of the orbit R       and the angular velocity is constant and not dependent on the radius.       The motion is the same for a harmonic oscillator.              A galaxy has this blob or halo of dark matter it is embedded in.       Dark matter is about 75-80% of matter in the galaxy. The motion of       a star is then due to this dark matter which would cause galactic       rotation to be similar to the rotation of a disk. The occurrence       of stars that are more concentrated towards the center will give       more of a Kepler law of motion result. The actual dynamics is then       a summation of the two. The Keplerian dynamics does result in a       small decrease in rotation with radius, but not as pronounced as       would happen without dark matter.              LC              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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