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|    Message 16,146 of 17,516    |
|    Lawrence Crowell to Keith Stein    |
|    Re: Flat orbital velocity profiles of sp    |
|    15 May 18 07:34:56    |
      From: goldenfieldquaternions@gmail.com              On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:23:24 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:       > On 05/05/2018 23:57, Lawrence Crowell wrote:       > > On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 6:50:09 AM UTC-5, Keith Stein wrote:       > >> I suspect there could be a simple relationship of the form:       > >>       > >> ( constant orbital speed )^2 = K * mass of galaxy       > >>       > >> I arrive at this by assuming that for spiral galaxies there is, in       > >> addition to the usual Newtonian inverse square gravitation, an       > >> additional inverse linear relationship.       > >>       > >> At normal distances the linear term is clearly very small and can be       > >> ignored, but obviously at very large distances the linear term will       > >> dominate, and at sufficiently large distances the inverse square term       > >> can be ignored.       > >>       > >> At large distance from the galactic center (R) we may therefore write:       > >>       > >> Centripetal Force = m * v^2 / R = K * M * m / R       > >>       > >> Which gives: v^2 = K * M       > >>       > >> Note v is independent of R, so this would nicely explain the       > >> flat orbital velocity curves of spiral galaxies.       > >>       > >> keith stein       > >       > > To understand the rotation of galaxies and its connection to dark       > > matter we need to look at Newton's second law of motion with       > > gravitational       > >       > > mdp/dt = F = -GMm/r^2       > >       > > for a mass m around a larger mass M. For a circular motion the force       > > is F = -mv^2/r = -mw^2r, for w a stand in for omega the angular       > > frequency. We then derive easily the relationship between the angular       > > velocity and the radius of the orbit       > >       > > w^2 = GM/r^3.       > >       > > This is Kepler's third law.       > >       > > Now consider the case where the satellite is in a region with a       > > density D of matter. The mass M above is then M = 4piDr^3/3.       >       > This expression clearly assumes the density of dark matter is uniform.       > Why would the dark matter not increase towards the center of the       > galaxy, as does the visible matter ?              Yes the actual matter distribution is more complicated. What I presented       here is an approximation. The distribution of matter actually decreases       closer to the center. This is why the velocity of stars actually slows       near the center.              LC                     >       > > We now       > > use Gauss' law that the force when integrated over the surface       > > surrounding a region with radius R the mass is then int F*dS.. We       > > assume complete symmetry and simplify this with letting       > >       > >       > > int F*dS = 2piR^2F = 8pi^2GDR.       > >       > > This means the force is proportional to the radius of the orbit R       > > and the angular velocity is constant and not dependent on the radius.       > > The motion is the same for a harmonic oscillator.       > >       > > A galaxy has this blob or halo of dark matter it is embedded in.       > > Dark matter is about 75-80% of matter in the galaxy. The motion of       > > a star is then due to this dark matter which would cause galactic       > > rotation to be similar to the rotation of a disk. The occurrence       > > of stars that are more concentrated towards the center will give       > > more of a Kepler law of motion result. The actual dynamics is then       > > a summation of the two. The Keplerian dynamics does result in a       > > small decrease in rotation with radius, but not as pronounced as       > > would happen without dark matter.       > >       > > LC       >       > Can the dark matter hypothesis explain the empirical relationship,       >       > v^4 = K * M              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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