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|    The evanescent wave at the detector. Wha    |
|    06 Jul 18 14:34:52    |
      06-JUL-2018              My simple experiment measures the frequency of an evanescent wave       that appears to form at the surface of digital detectors during       image formation. Wave pattern is recoverable from the image       by Fourier transform. Maybe.              Returning again from the drawing board, I will try to       briefly articulate the phenomenon I'm observing. I find       certain insights borne out in the arithmetic, but my under-       standing falls short, perhaps far short, of what the maths       might be saying.              By the same token, my lack of fundamental grounding prevents       my recognizing what might be obviously flawed in my formulations       and interpretation, and why the whole enterprise should be of no       interest to anyone but me.              It's one thing to think about nature, deeply, as an informally       educated person; a respectful pedestrian in this forum trying not       to exhaust the patience of resident artisans and students.              It's a whole other thing to actually observe something deeply,       and then work out a way of making valid measurements with which to       substantiate and communicate those observations, on the odd chance       it has significance to others.              The detector is represented by any well-formed image produced by the       device; and defined computationally as a square, N-dimensional array       of square pixels with dimension d. The observed fringes are then       a normal spatial image as a result of a computed image transform       applied to an input in the Fourier domain.              A histogram of measured frequencies, each sample denoted nu_n, is       produced, for arrays having pixel size d of the order of 10 microns.       The plot shows a fairly narrow, normal distribution of frequencies       centered on about 1.2THz, using a constant N = 512 sub-field.              By centering a source image sub-field on a different pixel, even       adjacent, a unique set of fringes is obtained by transform.              Using data from multiple, independent instruments, with pixel sizes in       the range of 6.8 to 21 microns square, I get consistent results, +/-       maybe 300GHz.              >From these data I've worked out the general formula for the quantized       frequencies observed:              nu_n = n(nu_o), E_n = h(nu_n)              where h = 4.135 x 10^-15 eV sec, n = (Ndp_n / h) is quantum mode,       p_n = E_n / c = n(h / Nd) is total momentum and nu_o is frequency       in the limit n=1; nu_o = (c / d) / N, with c equal to light velocity       in vacuum.              This was my point of departure some time back. Can anyone comment on       the validity of this configuration, and what one might expect from a       detailed model to account for not just the frequency, but all the other       things visible in the images of the fringes; things even a pedestrian would       see. I can make only limited sense of standard texts on diffraction       theory, quantum mechanics etc.              My analysis, for what it's worth, leads to a model that suggests the       fringes are interference of the not quite simultaneous emission of two       photons from each pixel, due to the recoil of the confined photocharge       packet from the scattering of a background photon. The photocharge mass       is proportional to the flux of the primary (imaging) photons putting the       charges in the pixel during the exposure. Thus, the last scattering event-       induced secondary emissions are must be encoded in the image data read off       the detector after the exposure.              I was beginning to think this might make sense for inelastic scattering       of mid-infrared photons during image formation, but then I applied the       procedure to the output of a bolometer array, where each bolometer is a       pixel with a diameter of 1.5mm. The above formula still works; I'm getting       fringes with a mean frequency of about 14GHz.              CCDs and bolometers are fundamentally different. What is confined in a       bolometer that could recoil and emit? It can't be a photocharge. . .       In this bolometer array (photometer in SPIRE instrument on Herschel       Space Observatory), near as I can tell from reading, there is a measure of       power by a fantastic little contraption called a spider web that looks       like a Brancusi. But a lot smaller. Interestingly, the photometer images       in three passbands, 250, 350 and 500 microns, and the fringes generally       disappear in the midrange passband. No phase information? Very confusing.              More to the point:       How can power, confined in a pixel, scatter a photon and subsequently       lead to a correlated emission at proportionately lower energy?              Can evanescent waves be recorded digitally? It seems that this would allow       a measurement of the wave without disturbing it. The input exposures I'm       working with ended ten years ago.                     Confused pedestrian grateful for any directions;              cheers,       mark jonathan horn              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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