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|    Michael Cole to Edward Prochak    |
|    Re: Higgs and Aether    |
|    13 Jul 18 21:45:13    |
      From: patzermike.mc@gmail.com              On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:09:22 AM UTC-4, Edward Prochak wrote:       > I am looking for opinions from the more experienced physicists here.       >       > Inertial mass is considered to arise from the Higgs particle.       > Since the Higgs particles are supposed to permeate all of space,       > have we come full circle in defining something similar to the       > aether?       >       > Yes I know there are key differences:       > Supposed aether propagated light (E&M) while       > Higgs imparts the inertial mass       >       > Aether was a fixed reference frame       > Higgs particles move(?)       >       > I'm not ready for a deep dive into the mathematics,       > but it like some thought about the Higgs and maybe       > other similarities and differences from the aether.       > My goal is not to define a new Aether, but to understand       > the Higgs.       >       > For example, is the Higgs related to the       > relativistic length contraction?       > relativistic mass increase?       >       > Always open to learning,       > Ed P.              As I understand it, there is no connection between the Higgs field and       the aether. The reason for the original aether concept was that       Maxwell's equations are incompatible with a Newtonian notion of       relativity based on the Galilei transformations. Hence they postulated       the "luminiferous aether", a mysterious "substance" that permeated the       universe and transmitted electromagnetic waves, but interacted with       nothing else. The idea was that there is a privileged frame of       reference in which the aether is stationary. In that frame light       propagates with speed c in any direction. The high accuracy of the       Maxwell equations observed in laboratory experiments would follow if the       speed of the earth with respect to the aether is always small with       respect to light. Einstein preferred to abandon Newton's absolute space       and time rather than to believe that a principle of relativity does not       apply to electromagnetic phenomena. Special relativity, based on the       Lorentz transformations applies to electromagnetism as well as to       (suitably reformulated) mechanical phenomena.              The Higgs field, like all other field theories is specifically       constructed to be Lorentz invariant. I see no similarity with the old       aether theories.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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