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|    Edward Prochak to Luigi Fortunati    |
|    Re: The spring between the little trains    |
|    13 Jul 18 23:05:26    |
      From: edprochak@gmail.com              On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 1:07:42 AM UTC-4, Luigi Fortunati wrote:       > Edward Prochak ha scritto :       > > Okay, I'll try.       > >       > > since the two forces are not equal, I think it is safe       > > to rule out that this is a statics problem (or this is       > > is an unusual spring).       > >       > > Now when you state a train "exerts a force", precisely       > > how is that determined/located?       > >       > > Is it the force at the contact point of the front of       > > the train and and the spring? Or is it measured       > > at the point between the wheels and the track?       > >       > > how fast are the trains actually moving?       > > What is the spring constant?       > > What is the mass of the spring?       > >       > > As I look at this, there are just too many unknowns       > > to analyze. I could write an argument to support       > > either option. Could you supply more information please?       >       > The trains are initially stationary (no speed) and the difference       > between the two forces is determined by the different power of the two       > engines in the proportion of 15 to 10.       >       > Everything else is irrelevant.              Okay let me have another go at it:       train A has speed 0 at time 0       It is under a force of 15 exerted by the spring       as the train exerts a force of 15 on the spring              train B has speed 0 at time 0       It is under a force of 10 exerted by the spring       as the train exerts a force of 10 on the spring              At the Instant being considered t=0, the power       of the engines is mere obfuscation.              The spring is not at equilibrium, obviously,       so the conclusion is 1       "(1) In point A the spring reacts with force        -15 to the force 15 of the train A, and in the        point B with a force 10 to the force -10 of the        train B"                     Not quite sure how to set up such a condition in reality,       but it is your dime.              Thanks for a momentary distraction from work.        Ed              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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