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   Message 16,281 of 17,516   
   Lawrence Crowell to Edward Prochak   
   Re: Higgs and Aether   
   15 Jul 18 18:23:48   
   
   From: goldenfieldquaternions@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 12:09:22 AM UTC-5, Edward Prochak wrote:   
   > I am looking for opinions from the more experienced physicists here.   
   >   
   > Inertial mass is considered to arise from the Higgs particle.   
   > Since the Higgs particles are supposed to permeate all of space,   
   > have we come full circle in defining something similar to the   
   > aether?   
   >   
   > Yes I know there are key differences:   
   > Supposed aether propagated light (E&M) while   
   > Higgs imparts the inertial mass   
   >   
   > Aether was a fixed reference frame   
   > Higgs particles move(?)   
   >   
   > I'm not ready for a deep dive into the mathematics,   
   > but it like some thought about the Higgs and maybe   
   > other similarities and differences from the aether.   
   > My goal is not to define a new Aether, but to understand   
   > the Higgs.   
   >   
   > For example, is the Higgs related to the   
   > relativistic length contraction?   
   > relativistic mass increase?   
   >   
   > Always open to learning,   
   >    Ed P.   
      
   The Higgs field is not the aether of the 19th century. The aether   
   was thought to be a sort of medium that EM field propagated through.   
   It was thought to pervade all of space and was defined on a fixed   
   frame. The Higgs field only shares the feature that it pervades all   
   of space or spacetime. It is however not a medium for the oscillation   
   of EM or other gauge fields.   
      
   The Higgs field has two doublets (H^+, H^-) and (H^0, h^0). The   
   first of these couple to the the W^+ and W^- weak bosons. These   
   bosons have transverse modes of oscillation that is perpendicular   
   to the direction of motion. Since these bosons are masseless uncouple   
   to the Higgs field the projection of their angular momentum m =   
   (-1, 0, 1) does not have a state for the m = 0, for this means there   
   is a rest frame where the spin is not along the direction of motion.   
   When the H^+ couples to the W^+ the degree of freedom for the Higgs   
   is converted into this m = 0 longitudinal mode. The same is the   
   case for the H^- and W^- and the H^0 and its coupling to Z. The h^0   
   is the left over part that was detected and announced in 2012.   
      
   A gauge boson with a longitudinal mode will in high transverse   
   momentum transfer or high energy have its longitudinal mode move   
   faster than light. This was what motivated the Higgs theory to start   
   with. The idea is that at extremely high energy the EW bosons are   
   all massless when decoupled from the Higgs field. At low energy the   
   coupling occurs so there is an "H + Z = ZH" particles with longitudinal   
   mode.   
      
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