El lunes, 16 de julio de 2018, 0:31:24 (UTC-5), Ed Lake  escribió:   
   > On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 11:40:18 AM UTC-5, mr...@ing.puc.cl wrote:   
      
   >> Firstly, these are not my beliefs but facts of the SR model. Secondly, your   
   >> description of what Hafele and Keating did is correct.   
   >> But you have to understand that the comparison among clocks were performed   
   >> AFTER the experiment. The atomic clocks were flown around the world, as you   
   say   
   >> but, obviously, they could not compare their clock readings with the   
   readings   
   >> of the master atomic clock while they were flying (since the clocks were not   
   >> colocated).   
   >>   
   >> And finally, what the comparison was about related to the ELAPSED time of   
   the   
   >> different clocks. The elapsed time of a clock is not the tick rate of that   
   clock.   
   >   
   > If the clocks tick at the same rate and show the same time at the   
   > start of the experiment but showed different elapsed times after   
   > the experiment, then the difference in elapsed times indicates a   
   > difference in tick rates.  If the clock that moved shows an elapsed   
   > time that is 24 nanoseconds less than the "stationary" clock after   
   > 24 hours, then the clock that moved ticked at a rate that was 1   
   > nanosecond per hour slower than the clock that was stationary.   
   >   
   > Ed   
      
   That is, again, your assertion and you have not provided any proof of that.   
   You may think your assertion is logical, but physics is not based in logic   
   but in building models and test them by experiments.   
      
   The different elapsed times are due to the geometry of the movements of the   
   clocks. They follow different paths, which each clock travels at exactly   
   1 sec/sec. Since the paths are different, it follows that the amount of time   
   between the start and the end of the experiment will indeed differ.   
      
   Again, this is quite similar to why two identical odometers, in two identical   
   cars, show different distances between Chicago and New York, because they   
   followed different paths between these two cities. The difference is due to the   
   geometry of the problem.   
      
   You recognize that you are not interested in going into the equations that   
   show this geometry, because you are not familiar with any math regarding this   
   problem. Proceeding in that way, it will get too difficult to you to understand   
   any of the basics of Special or General Relativity.   
      
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