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   Nicolaas Vroom to Phillip Helbig   
   Re: Quantum puzzle baffles physicists.   
   15 Oct 18 20:56:09   
   
   From: nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be   
      
   On Sunday, 14 October 2018 02:53:15 UTC+2, Phillip Helbig wrote:   
   > In article <43e06192-3f95-4626-add0-9c7a737a3a8e@googlegroups.com>,   
   > Nicolaas Vroom  writes:   
   >   
   > > Ofcourse you can claim that before you look at the counter, the counter   
   > > is in a set of states simultaneous (like both dead and alive) but   
   > > that is of no physical significance.   
   >   
   > Note that Schrodinger proposed this experiment precisely in order to   
   > demonstrate the absurd conclusions which the Copenhagen interpretation   
   > leads to.  At least some other interpretations of quantum mechanics seem   
   > more sensible to me.   
      
   In the book "In search of Schroedingers cat" at page 203, John Gribbin   
   writes: Thew apparatus in the box is arranged so that the detector is   
   switched on just long enough so that there is a fift-fifty chance that   
   one of the atoms in the radioactive material will decay and that the   
   detector will record a particle."   
      
   That means you have to perform this experiment first 1000 times   
   in order to establish what the half-life is.   
      
   Next he writes:   
   According to the strict Copenhagen interpretation, just as in the two-hole   
   experiment there is an equal probability that the electron goes through   
   either hole, and the two overlapping possibilities produce a superposition   
   of states (1), so in this case the equal probabilities for radioactive decay   
   and no radioactive decay should produce a superposition of states (2)".   
      
   The part near (2) is not clear to me.   
   What is clear that when you look in the box, you have a 50% chance   
   that the cat is alive and a 50% chance that the cat is dead.   
   Because that is the way the experiment is set up.   
   As such IMO to claim that the cat before you look is in a superposition   
   state is of physical significance.   
   The part near (1) is not clear to me.   
   Interference between water waves is explained because the wave goes   
   to both holes.   
      
   > I'll leave others to answer your other questions.   
      
   Nicolaas Vroom   
      
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