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|    Sabbir Rahman to Lawrence Crowell    |
|    Re: Dark energy, dark matter and negativ    |
|    03 Nov 18 10:57:54    |
      From: intuitionist1@gmail.com              On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 5:25:34 PM UTC+3, Lawrence Crowell wrote:       > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 12:24:01 AM UTC-6, ben...@hotmail.com wrote:       > > On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:21:57 PM UTC, Tom Roberts wrote:       > >> ...       > >> For test particles the GR prediction is unambiguous:       > >> regardless of the test particle's mass (including sign, if any) it       > >> "falls downward" toward a positive mass and "falls upward" away from a       > >> negative mass.       > >>       > >> While there is currently no experimental evidence of antimatter's       > >> behavior in gravity, the mass of every known antiparticle is       > >> unequivocally positive.       > >> ...       > >       > > I am not clear how it is shown that antimatter unequivocally has       > > positive mass? As both positive and negative test masses are attracted       > > to the positive mass of the earth, then how can attraction to the earth       > > be used to distinguish between a positive and a negative test mass?       >       > It makes little sense that antimatter has negative inertial mass. The       > particle antiparticle interaction would give mc^2 - mc^2 = E = 0, where       > experiments measure photons. The gravitational mass is an open       > questions, and an experiment at CERN is being set up to measure this       > with anti-hydrogen atoms.       >       > LC              This is actually not correct.              If you take the time to work it out (by considering the interactions between       the four classes of particles I mention), you will actually find that the       energy and momentum of a particle of type (I,A,P) has to have a factor of       IAP in front of the usual definition, so the momentum p = IAPmv, the kinetic       energy E = IAPmv^2/2, and the rest mass energy is IAP mc^2.              So your assumption that negative inertial mass implies negative energy is       not correct in general.              In actual fact, the rest mass energy is positive for particles of class A       and D, and negative for particles of class B and C.              Now, antiparticles are of type D (well at least according to the claim made       here), and therefore have positive energy, so the total energy released upon       annihilation of a particle-antiparticle pair is positive (and equal to       2mc^2), as expected.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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