From: bergervo@iae.nl
On 11/7/2018 10:06 PM, Nicolaas Vroom wrote:
> On Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:32:15 UTC+1, Jos Bergervoet wrote:
>> On 10/20/2018 10:22 PM, Nicolaas Vroom wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:28:44 UTC+2, Phillip Helbig wrote:
>>>> In article <23a86ac4-341e-4c8f-94a4-6bd9c17902c4@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Nicolaas Vroom writes:
>>>>
>>>>> In the book "In search of Schroedingers cat" at page 203, John Gribbin
>>>>> writes: Thew apparatus in the box is arranged so that the detector is
>>>>> switched on just long enough so that there is a fift-fifty chance that
>>>>> one of the atoms in the radioactive material will decay and that the
>>>>> detector will record a particle."
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>>> 2. Before we open the box is the state of the coin now "both head and
tail"?
>>> 3. Is the coin in a superposition state? (IMO both no)
>>
>> Assuming that it was *not* in a superposition to begin with (since you
>> forgot to specify that) it will then depends on how exactly you move
>> the box what the outcome will be.
> SNIP
>> so practically speaking it will not be in a
>> superposition of heads and tails. (But most likely it's still in a
>> superposition of different locations in the box!)
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>> As explained, there is almost certainly a superposition involved for
>> things that are not exactly fixed (position, orientation, internal
>> position of crystal defects in the coin, etc.)
>
> (*) The only thing that I know that before I look inside the box
> that 'I' do not know what the actual state is of the cat.
How do you know that? You are also a superposition of different
states if we use quantum mechanics to describe you. In some
parts of the superpositions you may think one thing and in
other parts something else.
--
Jos
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