From: eaglesondouglas@gmail.com   
      
   Stated another way. Is a set of observations   
   used to compute a probability, allowed to be   
   classified as a computation? Or, is probability   
   computable?  But, what becomes the allowed use of   
   probability?  This last question is the crux of   
   the existence of Quantum Mechanics, QM, as a viable theory.   
      
   I do not think of anyway to reject the existence of   
   probability in general.  There exists a function in   
   mathematics for the size of a permutation, N!.   
   The set of observations does need to be evenly distributed   
   on this function though.   
      
   Is there a QM probability observed without the even   
   distribution? The easy answer is to allow any system given   
   to function as being computable.  Maybe there needs to be   
   consideration of functional symmetry.   If A infers B then   
   B must be allowed to infer A.  This mathematical symmetry   
   does not work with a probabilistic function. B as the averaged   
   state probability can not infer a single value of A.   
      
   Begging the question.  Given a probabilistic state to   
   observe, how does one observe the size N of the system?   
   For lack of a better answer to the original poster's question   
   I submit that if N is known the system is computable, if N   
   is not known the observer needs to reformulate.   
      
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