On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 3:56:31 PM UTC-6, Gary Harnagel wrote:   
   > On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 1:22:18 AM UTC-7, richali...@gmail.com wr=   
   ote:   
   ...   
   > > A would see the "outside" universe speed up.  By the time A reached the   
   > > event horizon A would have witnessed the end of the universe, if there   
   > > is an end.   
   >=20   
   > Couldn't A consider himself to be at rest?  Therefore he would see the   
   > black hole (BH) rushing toward himself and the distant observer rushing   
   > away at speeds approaching c, reaching c at the EH.  Wouldn't that   
   > offset the effect of A observing the distant observer's time speeding   
   > up?   
      
   I believe that is correct, although I can't do the calculation to   
   prove it.  Actually my comment was from the point of view of someone   
   that managed to hover near the event horizon (which, of course, is   
   impossible due to the gradient of g_00 at that location).  For A   
   free falling through the event horizon, many have already calculated   
   that A will pass through the event horizon in a finite time (per   
   their clocks), and that A will be traveling virtually at the speed   
   of light (wrt the external universe) when they do.  Given their   
   very high acceleration at the event horizon there would be a Rindler   
   horizon behind A that would effectively cut them off from actually   
   seeing the external universe.   
      
   As best as I understand it...   
      
   Rich L.   
      
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