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|    Steven Carlip to J.B. Wood    |
|    Re: The "Force" of Gravity    |
|    26 Apr 19 19:53:17    |
      From: carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu              On 4/24/19 3:53 AM, J.B. Wood wrote:              [...]       > Hello, and I wasn't inquiring about the effects of gravity or       > whether it's a "true" force or not. I'm trying to understand its       > origin and why it should exist in curved space-time.              In general, "why" questions aren't really the sort of things physics       is good at answering. In Newtonian physics, for instance, why do       objects with no forces acting on them move in straight lines? You       can answer, "Because a straight line is the shortest distance between       two point," but why should that matter? Or you can answer, "Because       momentum is conserved," but why should momentum be conserved? (If       you want to be sophisticated, you can say, "Because Noether's theorem       implies momentum conservation in a translationally invariant theory       derived from an action," but why should the laws of physics be       translationally invariant and come from an action?)              It's helpful to think of general relativity as coming in two parts       (more on this below). First, the presence of matter and energy produces       spacetime curvature. Why? Well, why should spacetime be flat? Once       you accept that there's no reason beyond prejudice to require flatness,       if you're a physicist, you look for an action principle to determine       the curvature. By far the simplest choice (with no extra ingredients       like a preferred coordinate system) was discovered by Einstein and       Hilbert a century ago, and it leads directly to the Einstein field       equations.              Second, in a curved spacetime, objects move along the shortest possible       paths (technically, the *longest* proper time, but that's a technicality       coming from the details of the definition). Why? Well, it's the       obvious generalization of the Newtonian motion along a straight line.       It also comes from the simplest action principle you can write down for       a point particle. If you want more than that, I'll again ask the same       question in Newtonian physics: why does a free particle move along a       straight line?              Notice that action principles come up in both parts of this answer.       Almost all known physics can be written in terms of some version of a       principle of least action. It's likely that this can be traced back to       the Feynman path integral in quantum mechanics -- the "paths" in a path       integral have phases determined by an action, and the least action       configuration is just the stationary phase approximation. But why       should quantum mechanics be described by path integrals? We don't know.              Finally, as a slightly more subtle point, the two elements of general       relativity I listed aren't really independent. It turns out that the       Einstein field equations -- the equations that determine the curvature       of spacetime in terms of its matter content -- are all you need. If       you try to write down a solution of the field equations with two       separate lumps of matter, you find that there is no solution for which       the lumps are stationary. Solutions *only* exist if each piece is       already moving properly in the other's gravitational field.              I suspect you won't find this a completely satisfying answer. But I       think that's because you may be asking a wrong question. Usually when       people ask "why" in physics, what they mean is, "Explain this in terms       of some phenomenon I already think I understand." But if you look       carefully, you'll find the things you think you already understand are       mysterious themselves. (Balls bouncing off each other? In reality,       they never touch; they're repelled by some complex mixture of Pauli's       exclusion principle and electromagnetic interactions.)              Steve Carlip              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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