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|    Steven Carlip to Luigi Fortunati    |
|    Re: The gelatin sphere    |
|    03 Jul 19 08:50:44    |
      From: carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu              On 7/2/19 4:36 AM, Luigi Fortunati wrote:              [...]       > Is the object of finite size in free fall (in a gravitational field)       > inertial (that is, is it not undergoing any force) or is it accelerated       > (because it is subject to the EXTERNAL tidal forces)?              If the object is held together by internal forces, then most bits of       the object aren't inertial -- they're subject to the internal forces.       If you work hard enough, you can define a center of mass position       that moves inertially. That seems obvious, and I can't believe       that's what you're really trying to ask.              So let's take an example that avoids this, a ball of "dust," particles       that aren't bound to each other. If the ball starts out spherical,       it will be distorted in roughly the same way your gelatin sphere is       (not exactly the same way, of course, because there are no longer       any internal forces). In this case, each particle is inertial; the       shape changes because inertial motion is different at different       locations. The distortion is called "geodesic deviation" -- look       it up if you want details.              > Second question: do the tidal EXTERNAL forces act only in a given       > reference system or do they always act?              Tidal "forces" in general relativity are proportional to the       curvature tensor. If they are nonzero in any reference frame,       they're nonzero in all frames.              Steve Carlip              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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