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|    Nicolaas Vroom to Tom Roberts    |
|    Re: The Twin Paradox: the role of accele    |
|    07 Jul 19 11:41:44    |
      From: nicolaas.vroom@pandora.be              On Saturday, 6 July 2019 00:48:04 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:       > On 7/4/19 2:41 PM, Nicolaas Vroom wrote:       > > The easiest explanation is (?) that this is a physical issue which       > > depends on the inner workings of the clock.       >       > But that is woefully incorrect. If the "inner workings of the clock" are       > affected by its motion, then the first postulate of SR must be violated.       > Because, after all, the laws of physics govern the inner workings of       > every clock. To date we have observed no such violation.              IMO laws are descriptions. If you want to build an airplane from scratch       you have to learn by trial and error how to do it better. Slowly you       will build up experience and get an idea what the best shapes of wings       are, that drag is important, what type of engine you need etc etc. If       you are clever you can design a mathematical model of your plane and       with simulations you can try to improve performance. But it is not the       mathematical model that governs the behaviour of your plane. Laws are       the common concepts as a result of experiments.              I can build two clocks which are physical identical than the mathematics       that describe each are identical. Both clocks can also be completely       different than the mathematics is different. This difference is a       reflection about the physical difference between the two clocks. It is       not the mathematics that governs this difference.              The first step in the understanding of the twin paradox is to agree that       in stead of two twins also two identical clocks can be used. The second       step is to agree that instead, that one twin stays at home it is one       clock will stay at home and that instead, that the other twin makes a       round trip it is the other clock. The third step is to agree that after       they return at home the moving clock will show less counts than the stay       at home clock The fourth step is to agree upon an explanation. In any       way this explanation depends on the speed of light and the different       speeds of the clocks.              Nicolaas Vroom.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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