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|    Jos Bergervoet to is sad    |
|    Re: Two real fields with bi-quadratic co    |
|    14 Jul 20 08:03:05    |
      From: jos.bergervoet@xs4all.nl              [Note to moderator: this did not appear several days after posting.]              [Moderator's note: I posted it within a few minutes of getting it.       Maybe the previous version was lost. -P.H.]              On 20/07/10 12:20 PM, is sad wrote:       >> Is there a name for the QFT with two real fields. \psi and \phi, and       >> interaction       >>       >> g \psi^2 \phi^2,       >>       >> where obviously g should be positive and both fields are Klein-Gordon       >> fields which may or may not have mass. The descriptive name in the title       >> could of course be used, but is this system known under a special name?       >>       >> (I'm interested since it looks like the simplest example of two       >> interacting fields and perhaps the wave functional of its solutions       >> could be visualized..)       >       > [Moderator's note: I have added the quoted text above to supply some       > context. -P.H.]       >       > The subject is QFT       > And you try to understand interaction between              It is more about finding clear examples. Perhaps to make others       understand, or to make ourselves understand things better, but it       is one step earlier: it is about finding the essence, restricting       as much as possible the number of things that actually have to be       understood!              > the Schrödinger and the Dirac equations              No, those are possible examples but especially the Dirac filed is       too complicated (4 complex components, i.e. 8 real components, you       can't easily visualize that, and you don't need that).              > (that is hidden in the Klein-Gordon fields equation) . . .       > . . . if i understood correctly              My aim is not to see everything that is hidden in the set of fields       of the standard model, I want a simple toy model to see how interacting       fields can lead to matter (bound states) and subsequently to the       perception of something approaching classical reality.              [Obviously the system I mentioned is just one initial step, not yet       sufficient for what I want, since it describes two repelling fields..       Two charged fields with Maxwell interaction might be more promising,       but that gives already 2 complex components, even in 1+1 dimensions       where the EM field does not have free modes..]              --       Jos              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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