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|    Tom Roberts to Mike Fontenot    |
|    Re: The braking of the traveler twin    |
|    11 Apr 22 12:19:47    |
      From: tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net              On 4/11/22 3:00 AM, Mike Fontenot wrote:       > if I'm mutually stationary wrt the array of clocks that I have       > previously described, which provides a "NOW" for me extending       > throughout space, [...]              If you are an astronaut in a spaceship that can travel at an appreciable       fraction of c, and which you maneuver, then such an array of clocks is       impossible -- each such clock must vary its acceleration in concert with       yours, so the spaceships carrying those clocks must be clairvoyant,       because they are separated from you by spacelike intervals. Moreover,       such clocks located sufficiently far away from you will require an       unphysical acceleration and/or velocity to remain on station; you       cannot cover the universe with them, only a region "close" to you (how       close depends on the details of your maneuvering).               [I suppose you could plan out your trip in exquisite        detail, and the spaceships carrying the other clocks        could pre-compute their accelerations to match. But        anyone who has ever driven a car knows how poorly        such plans are followed.]              If you carefully keep track of your acceleration, velocity, and position       relative to some coordinates, then you can calculate what "now" means to       you at a distant location, as you maneuver. As I have pointed out many       times before, that in general gives nonsensical and unphysical results.              If you "believe" that your wife back home can grow younger due to your       maneuvering, then you will believe anything, which is useless, and is       certainly not physics.              Tom Roberts              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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