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|    Richard Livingston to Richard D. Saam    |
|    Re: Is there a universal time?    |
|    21 Jul 22 10:16:56    |
      From: richalivingston@gmail.com              On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 1:39:22 AM UTC-5, Richard D. Saam wrote:       > On 7/14/22 1:55 AM, Jonathan Thornburg [remove -color to reply] wrote:       ...       > > (As Phillip Helbig noted       > > in another message in this thread, in our universe 1/CMBR_temperature       > > can serve as such a global time coordinate.)       > Is there another?       ...              I'm inclined to agree with JT about the 8 hour period in the JPL data.       There is too much human and earth related effects to be confident that       that is something universal. And there is absolutely no theoretical       basis for such an effect.              The cosmic background temperature is one good possibility for a       universal time, although it would be very difficult to use it to       determine the time with any precision useful for humans. It should be       recognized that any such "time" would be a convention that everyone       concerned would have to agree to, and as such there are many       possibilities.              A little more practical and accurate would be a time scale based on the       distance between two galaxies as measured in some specified inertial       frame. Another would be based on some master clock in a single       particular location in the universe. With an understanding of special       relativity it is possible for everyone everywhere to calculate the time       on that clock for the observers location IN THE MASTER CLOCK INERTIAL       FRAME. (Sorry about yelling, but that last part is important!) This       would not be a simple calculation for any observer that is accelerating,       but in principle can be done. If the master clock is transmitting time       signals by radio, the observer can measure the distance back to the       master clock and determine the current time, again having to take into       account the observers motion wrt the master clock and the distance. Of       course at great distances when massive objects are near the line of       sight, gravitational lensing would complicate this calculation.              Rich L.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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