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|    Luigi Fortunati to All    |
|    Re: Relativity of simultaneity    |
|    03 Aug 22 10:02:06    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Luigi Fortunati alle ore 12:00:40 di marted́ 02/08/2022 ha scritto:       > [[Mod. note --       > ...       > To understand how they can both be correct, it's useful to ask how       > one could distinguish one condition from the other *observationally*.       >       > That is, how could you *measure* whether whether the spring is or isn't       > tilted?              It is the theory itself that tells me if the spring tilts or not.              If the theory tells me that the two extremities are released       simultaneously, I obviously deduce that (falling) it does not tilt.              If he tells me that one end is released before the other, I equally       obviously deduce that (falling) it tilts.              [[Mod. note -- What does the word "simultaneously" mean? In special       relativity simultaneity is observer-dependent, i.e., different observers       will in general not agree on whether two (spatially-separated) events       are simultaneous. There's no universal notion of "simultaneous".              In the same way, whether or not the spring tilts is observer-dependent;       there's no universal notion of tilt.              Your two "conditions" are each internally consistent and correct.       There's no contradiction between them; they're simply different ways       of describing the same events.       -- jt]]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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