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|    Luigi Fortunati to All    |
|    Re: The Direction of geodesics    |
|    12 Sep 22 17:02:04    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Luigi Fortunati domenica 11/09/2022 alle ore 11:38:28 ha scritto:       > The time coordinate is part of the geodesic.       >       > If the time coordinate has a preferred direction, the geodesic also has       > a preferred direction.       >       > [[Mod. note --       > A useful mental model for a geodesic at a point is motion on the surface       > of the Earth. That is, starting at some specified point, we can move       > in a specified compass direction (e.g., you might start out moving due       > west). If, once moving, we don't turn left and you don't turn right,       > our motion will be along a geodesic on the Earth's surface.       >       > Thinking of our starting point again, you could have started moving       > in any direction              Exactly, I could have started moving in any direction and, among all, I       would have been forced, finally, to choose only one.              > in any direction (e.g., instead of bearing 090 degrees = due west, we       > could have chosen any other compass bearing). So there are a whole       > (infinite) family of possible geodesics passing through that starting       > point (one for each possible compass bearing).              That's right, the choice is one of an infinite number of possible       geodesics.              > If I understand you correctly, you're asking "once a particle is moving,       > how does it know to continue moving in that direction?".              No! I am asking how does it know how to "start" to move (along       4-geodesic) and not how to "continue" to move.              Once the particle has moved, its choice (among the infinite possible)       has already been made!              > The answer is basically conservation of momentum              There is no conservation of 4-momentum when the elevator cables break       and the elevator goes from constrained condition to free fall.              > unless there is some external force pushing on the particle, it's going to       > continue moving in the *same* direction it was already moving in.              The elevator where the cables break, does not keep moving in the *same*       4-direction it was moving before.              > In terms of geodesics in relativity (the original context of your question),       > it's essential to realise that (as others have noted) the trajectoris of       > free particles are geodesics in *spacetime*, not geodesics in *space*.       > That means the most useful particle velocity to think about is the       > 4-velocity, which is *never* zero (you're always moving forward in time),       > and corresponding momentum is the 4-momentum, which is also never zero.              Ok, let's talk about 4-momentum.              When the cables break, the elevator does not retain the 4-momentum it       had before but switches from a certain 4-momentum (the one it had when       standing at the floor) to another completely different 4-momentum (the       one it assumes during free fall).              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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