From: richalivingston@gmail.com   
      
   On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:17:28 AM UTC-5, Rock Brentwood wrote:   
   > On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:30:58 AM UTC-5, rich... wrote:   
   > > It seems to me that this argument is missing two important facts: -The   
   > > wave function is not real, it is only a mathematical tool for predicting   
   > > the probabilities of future states   
   > There is no such thing as being "only a mathematical tool".   
   > Everything that says anything meaningful about the physical world   
   > is ipso facto physical and physically relevant, and is thus real.   
   ...   
      
   I have to clarify my statement on the wave function.  It is both a   
   mathematical tool and also something that somehow, probably imperfectly,   
   mirrors something real.  To take the wave function as something real is,   
   I think, not justified by the non-physical behaviors, e.g. the   
   "instantaneous collapse".  Never the less, there is something real that   
   the wave function is representing, and I think more of us should be   
   trying to figure out what that is.   
      
   Rich L.   
      
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