From: tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net   
      
   On 10/16/22 7:09 AM, Richard Livingston wrote:   
   > On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 2:59:07 PM UTC-5, Austin Fearnley   
   > wrote:   
   >> [...]   
      
   You are both overthinking this.   
      
   Consider a generic experiment on quantum entanglement: Two particles are   
   created at event A in an entangled state, they are separated and   
   transported to events B and C, where their individual properties are   
   measured; B and C are spacelike-separated events.   
      
   It is observed that:   
     a) one cannot predict the outcome of either measurement   
     b) when the results of the two measurements are brought together   
        and compared, they are found to have the same correlation as   
        when the particles remain at A and are measured there   
        simultaneously.   
      
   Why would anyone think "retrocausality" is involved here? The path of   
   causality is quite clear: from A to B and independently from A to C --   
   there is no causal link between B and C. The fact that the particles at   
   B and C have a property that is correlated is curious, and violates   
   classical notions of locality, but is not any sort of refutation of   
   causality.   
      
   The source of this confusion is clear: thinking these are "individual   
   properties", when in fact such ENTANGLED properties are not individual   
   to the two particles.   
      
   Tom Roberts   
      
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