From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de   
      
   jt writes:   
   |But this "freezing" is an optical/radio illusion: the object actually   
      
     How is it an "illusion"? As I understand causality,   
     an event can only influence events in its future light cone.   
      
     So, where's the future light cone of the event "the faller   
     crosses the event horizon here"? This future light cone does   
     not seem to be in the space outside of the event horizon!   
      
     This would have the very real effect that this event cannot   
     influence anything in the space outside of the event horizont,   
     which is not an illusion.   
      
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