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|    Re: Faraday's Law and the Maxwell Equati    |
|    30 Apr 23 12:47:53    |
      d3cd4fc2       From: rockbrentwood@gmail.com              On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 2:07:08=E2=80=AFAM UTC-5, Douglas Goncz       A.A.S. M.E.T. 1990 wrote:       > I didn't study electrodynamics so my understanding of the Maxwell equations       > is limited but I believe there are four of them and they do not apply when       > db/dt equals 0, zero.              The fundamental equations of electromagnetic theory (and also: of gauge       theory) can be broken down into two sets that respect the stratification       of the geometric framework they are posed on top of:              (1) A non-metrical, non-causal part, which resides on bare differential       manifolds. (2) A metrical part, which is minimal and confined to a       couple relations.              This is an issue that Hehl has made a big deal out of (as did Einstein,       later in the game, in the 1920's). It's also something Baez used to       point out, from time to time, as have I.              Geometry can be stratified in layers, much like in the way that type       hierarchies are built up in languages like C++, as well as in       object-oriented languages.              (1) The "base class" is the "topological layer". That's topological       space and (on top of it), the Manifold.              (2) On this, a "derived type" adds in infrastructure suitable for       differentiation. That's the Differential Manifold. Natural objects and       natural operations exist at this level.              The base type to derived type connection can also be treated, in the       context of category theory as an adjunction relation between categories.       So, adjunction hierarchies play a role analogous to type inheritance       hierarchies.              (3) On this, a further layering may be added on as an affine structure,       with the inclusion of a connection.              (4) On top of this, one may add further structure in the form of a       metric.              Between levels (3) and (4), different in-between levels may be       entertained (e.g. a causal structure, a conformal structure, etc.)              The distinction between space-like and time-like directions resides       entirely on level (4). Level (3) is tone-deaf to any such distinction       ... which also means that there is no concept of "laws of motion",       "causality" or even "dynamics" at this level. In place of "dynamics" one       only has something like "unfolding". Equations unfold the structure of a       system from its boundaries, at level (3), they don't govern dynamics in       time.              The central hypothesis of Relativity resides at level (4) (and at the       in-between level on the "causal layer", if you go in between layers).       The very distinction between relativistic versus non-relativistic       physics exists only at level (4). Level (3) is blind to all such       distinctions.              Maxwell's equations can be formulated in such a way that almost all of       it resides at level (2). A small residual core resides at level (4),       and is the *only* part that distinguishes between a set of equations       suitable for a relativistic universe versus a set suitable for a       non-relativistic universe (e.g. the equations that Maxwell & Thomson had       *actually* written, or later Lorentz, in contrast to those which       Einstein and Laub, or later Minkowski, wrote).              The equations at level (2) can be written entirely in the language of       natural objects and natural operations - as Maxwell (in fact) had       essentially done both before and in his treatise - i.e. differential       forms. In equivalent 3-vector form, they consist of two fundamental       sets:              The equations for the "force" fields: E = -grad phi - d_t A, B = curl A       and corresponding "Bianchi identities": div B = 0, curl E + d_t B = 0.              The equations for the "response" fields: div D = rho, curl H - d_t D = J       and corresponding continuity equation: div J + d_t rho = 0.              The Bianchi identities and continuity equations are derived, not       fundamental. Maxwell didn't even bother to write down the (curl E + d_t       B = 0) equation.              As differential forms: F = (Ex dx + Ey dy + Ez dz) dt + Bx dy dz + By dz       dx + Bz dx dy A = (Ax dx + Ay dy + Az dz) - phi dt (pardon the reuse of       A, I'd use boldface A for the vector here, if I could), one has: dA = F,       dF = 0.              For the response fields, one has G = (Dx dy dz + Dy dz dx + Dz dx dy) -       (Hx dx + Hy dy + Hz dz) dt Q = rho dx dy dz - (Jx dy dz + Jy dx dz + Jz       dx dy) dt with dG = Q, dQ = Q.              Maxwell never mixed the parts with "dt" with the other parts, though       there was no reason for him not to have. It actually complicated and       cluttered his analysis to not do so.              It bears to point out something here:              The apparent 4-dimensionality of these equations has *nothing* to do       with relativity.              These equations live at level (2) on which level there is no such thing       as any "Relativity" versus "Non-Relativistic" distinction at all. They       would even apply in a universe where light speed is 0 (i.e. a Carrollian       Universe) or even in a timeless space (i.e. a 4D spacelike geometry).              The equations that reside at level (4) are those that connect the force       fields and response fields. That's where the distinction between       relativistic and non-relativistic resides. They can be written in a       common form that simultaneously encapsulates the equations posed by       Maxwell and Thomas, later by Hertz and by Lorentz (which are all       non-relativistic), as well as those posed at the same time by Einstein &       Laub, and by Minkowski in separate papers.              The Constitutive Laws: D + alpha G x H = epsilon (E + beta G x B) B -       alpha G x E = mu (H - beta G x D) where (alpha, beta) != (0, 0).              For these equations, there is a (generally unique) frame of reference in       which G = 0 and the constitutive laws reduce to isotropic form: D =       epsilon E, B = mu H. In the 19th century literature, the dichotomy was       referred to as the "stationary form" (for G = 0) versus the "moving       form" (G != 0). In the 20th century literature, after Einstein & Laub       and Minkowski the "moving form" is referred to as the form for "moving       media".              These are the equations naturally associated with a geometry that has       the following as its invariants:              beta dt^2 - alpha (dx^2 + dy^2 + dz^2) beta del^2 - alpha d_t^2 (dx, dy,       dz) . del + dt d_t              If alpha beta < 0, the geometry is that for a 4-dimensional timeless       space (i.e. the "Euclidean" version).              If alpha beta = 0, with beta = 0, but alpha != 0, the geometry is one       which has 0 as an invariant speed (the Carrollean universe)              If alpha beta = 0, with alpha = 0, but beta != 0, the geometry is one       which has the speed of "at the same time" (i.e. simultaneity) as the       invariant speed. All finite speeds are relative (the Galilean       universe).              The static universe (alpha = 0, beta = 0) isn't included in this list.              The case alpha beta > 0 includes the relativistic universe, with the       speed c = sqrt(beta/alpha) being a finite, non-zero invariant speed.              The above constitutive laws, for the Galilean case, are equivalent to       those posed by Maxwell, after the correction made by Thomson (the       inclusion of the -G x D term). They are also equivalent to the forms       posed by Lorentz, as well as by Hertz.              For the Relativistic case, they are equivalent to the forms posed by              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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