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|    Luigi Fortunati to All    |
|    Re: Free fall    |
|    06 Feb 24 12:21:12    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Mikko il 06/02/2024 09:26:51 ha scritto:       >> There is a well that reaches exactly the center of the Earth and there       >> are two elevators: one stationary at the bottom of the well (elevator A)       >> and the other in free fall (elevator B).       >>       >> Are the two elevators inertial reference systems of the same type or is       >> one reference system more inertial than the other?              > The elevator B is moving so it is affected by air resistance and other       > friction effect. It also meets the fast varying tidal effects from       > density variations in the matter around the well.       >       > If these effects can be kept small enough that they cannot be detected       > in B then B is in free fall.       >       > If the well is deep enough that the elevator A does not touch its       > bottom the elevator A is in free fall.       >       > If both elevators are in free fall in the above sense then there is       > no detectable difference in the conditions inside of the elevator.       >       > When the two elevators collide neither of the elevators is no longer       > in free fall.              You're twisting everything I wrote.              I wrote that the well ends at the center of the Earth (the bottom of the       well is at the center of the Earth).              That elevator A is STOPPED at the bottom of the well and, therefore, is       stationary at the center of the Earth.              That elevator A stays still not because the bottom of the shaft prevents       it from falling but because (at the center of the Earth) there is no       force of gravity and no space-time curvature that sets it in motion to       go somewhere: it stays still because nothing and no one pushes him       somewhere.              That elevator B is in free fall without friction and without resistance.              That elevator B is falling (in free fall) towards elevator A which it       will collide with in the future.              I would like to know *now* (before their clash) if they are both       inertial reference systems and if they are in the same way or if one is       more inertial than the other.              I hope I have been clear.              Luigi Fortunati              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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