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|    Hendrik van Hees to Mikko    |
|    Re: The momentum - a cotangent vector?    |
|    09 Aug 24 13:53:39    |
      From: hees@itp.uni-frankfurt.de              It's only that vectors or covectors and in general any tensor of any       rank do not transform at all under coordinate transformations (i.e.,       diffeomorphisms). What transforms are the basis vectors and the       corresponding dual base and correspondingly the components of the       tensors wrt. these bases. I tried to summarize this briefly for vectors       and covectors in my posting.              Note that in physics you usually have more structure in your manifolds.       E.g., in GR you assume a pseudo-Riemannian manifold, i.e., a manifold       with a fundamental form (of Lorentz signature (1,3) or (3,1) depending       on your sign convention) with the torsion-free compatible affine       connection. Then you can also canonically (i.e., independent of the use       of bases and cobases) identify vectors and covectors, as is usually done       by physicists.              On 09/08/2024 06:15, Mikko wrote:       > On 2024-08-07 11:37:02 +0000, the moderator said:       >       >> I think Stefan is using "tangent vector" and "cotangent vector"       >> in the sense of differential geometry and tensor calculus. In       >> this usage, these phrases describe how a vector (a.k.a a rank-1       >> tensor) transforms under a change of coordintes: a tangent vector       >> (a.k.a a "contravariant vector") is a vector which transforms the       >> same way a coordinate position $x^i$ does, while a cotangent vector       >> (a.k.a a "covariant vector") is a vector which transforms the same       >> way a partial derivative operator $\partial / \partial x^i$ does.       >       > Thank you. That makes sense.       >       > --=20       > Mikko              --       Hendrik van Hees       Goethe University (Institute for Theoretical Physics)       D-60438 Frankfurt am Main       http://itp.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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