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|    Luigi Fortunati to All    |
|    Re: Newton's Third Law and Inertia    |
|    07 Apr 25 12:26:37    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Mikko il 06/04/2025 13:50:11 ha scritto:       > Newton's language and the language of Motte's translation are archaic.       > Current language is cleared but it was developed much later.       >       > Inertia is not a force. It is a phenomenon. Force is a number or vector       > that quantifies an interaction.              Newton, with his archaic language, when he wrote "force" meant force       and, explaining inertia, he repeats it nine times (I have highlighted       them below):       "The vis insita, or innate *force* of matter, is a power of resisting,       by which every body, as much as it lies, endeavors to persevere in its       present state, whether it be of rest, or of moving uniformly forward in       a right line. This *force* is proportional to the body whose *force* it       is; and differs nothing from the inactivity of the mass, but in our       manner of conceiving it. A body, from the inactivity of matter, is not       without difficulty put out of its state of rest or motion. Upon which       account, this vis insita, may, by a most significant name, be called       vis inertiae, or *force* of inactivity. But a body exerts this *force*       only, when another *force*, impressed upon it, endeavors to change its       condition; and the exercise of this *force* may be considered both as       resistance and impulse; it is resistance, in so far as the body, for       maintaining its present state, withstands the *force* impressed; it is       impulse, in so far as the body, by not easily giving way to the       impressed *force* of another, endeavors, to change the state of that       another. Resistance is usually ascribed to bodies at rest, and impulse       to those in motion; but motion and rest, as commonly conceived, are       only relatively distinguished; nor are these bodies always truly at       rest, which commonly are taken to be so".              Was Newton wrong to talk about force? Was he wrong to say that inertia       is a force?              First of all, he doesn't say that inertia is *always* a force but it is       "*only* when another *force*, impressed on a body, endeavors to change       its condition".              I point out that this is the exact definition of the third law and he       explains it even better in the following when he writes that: inertia       "is resistance, in so far as the body, for maintaining its present       state, withstands the *force* impressed; it is impulse, in so far as       the body, by not easily giving way to the impressed *force* of another,       endeavors, to change the state of that another".              Here there is the inertia of both bodies that act and react       reciprocally.              So, the inertia of the two bodies A and B that are approaching is NOT       force but becomes force (as Newton says) *only* when body A tries to       change the condition of body B and body B tries to change the condition       of body A!              That is, inertia becomes force *only* when the two bodies come into       contact and not before or after.              Only during.              Luigi Fortunati              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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