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|    Luigi Fortunati to All    |
|    Re: Elastic Collision    |
|    12 Feb 26 23:26:45    |
      From: fortunati.luigi@gmail.com              Il 12/02/2026 07:30, Luigi Fortunati ha scritto:       > The Wikipedia entry for "Elastic collision"       > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic_collision       > contains the following animation       > https://youtu.be/wl0c6NMysY4       > where the two bodies collide at point x and instantly reverse direction.       >       > Does this seem correct?       >       > Can the 2m mass body be stopped at point X of the collision and pushed       > back by the smaller body?       >       > Luigi Fortunati       >       > [[Mod. note --       > The Wikipedia animations assume (1) Newtonian mechanics, (2) 1-D motion       > with no other forces acting, and (3) the elastic collisions occur very       > quickly (i.e., each body's acceleration is nonzero for only a short time).       > And saying that the collisions are *elastic* implies that there's no       > permanent deformation of either body after the collision.       >       > Within these assumptions, yes, the Wikipedia animations look correct.       >       > The answer to your question "Can the 2m mass body be stopped at point X       > of the collision and pushed back by the smaller body?" is yes, that's how       > Newtonian mechanics works.       >       > The Wikipedia article includes a section "Derivation of solution" which       > nicely explains how to derive the solution from conservation of momentum       > (which always holds) and conservation of energy (which holds in an elastic       > collision).       > -- jt]]              I dispute what the moderator wrote.              A body of mass 2m cannot bounce back (in place!) when it collides with a       body of mass m, otherwise a body of mass 3m, 10m, or 100m would also       bounce back.              It's obvious that a body of mass 100m, colliding with a body of mass m,       can only slow down but not stop in place and bounce back!              So, there should be a mass limit within which a larger body bounces off       a smaller body and beyond which it slows down but does not stop and does       not come back.              Does this limit exist? I don't think so.              Luigi Fortunati              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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