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   Gregory Hall to MillerT   
   Re: Capitulate with Altas before it's to   
   15 Mar 09 18:15:02   
   
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   XPost: rec.arts.poems, alt.fluff-girl.pinku-sensei   
   From: greghall@home.fake   
      
   "MillerT"  wrote in message   
   news:gpju5m$gne$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...   
   > On 3/15/09 5:44 PM, in article 2lgidr.6l9.17.1@news.alt.net, "Gregory   
   > Hall"   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> "MillerT"  wrote in message   
   >> news:gpjsfe$alt$3@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...   
   >>> On 3/15/09 5:35 PM, in article 2lght7.adp.19.1@news.alt.net, "Gregory   
   >>> Hall"   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> "MillerT"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:gpjrau$8mo$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...   
   >>>>> On 3/15/09 4:51 PM, in article 2lgfah.uql.19.1@news.alt.net, "Gregory   
   >>>>> Hall"   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> "MillerT"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:gpjlk2$l3n$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...   
   >>>>>>> On 3/15/09 3:05 PM, in article 2lg921.skv.17.1@news.alt.net,   
   >>>>>>> "Gregory   
   >>>>>>> Hall"   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "MillerT"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:gpjisi$dgm$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> On 3/15/09 2:36 PM, in article 2lg7cd.r7t.19.1@news.alt.net,   
   >>>>>>>>> "Gregory   
   >>>>>>>>> Hall"   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's the case that, too often, people attempt to make an argument   
   >>>>>>>>>> by   
   >>>>>>>>>> attacking and insulting those who hold opposing views. I wish to   
   >>>>>>>>>> do   
   >>>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>>> exact opposite:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? a certain odious faction that was engaging in systematic abuse   
   >>>>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>>>> individuals   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> * If you don't share my views you're probably a member of the   
   >>>>>>>>> infamous   
   >>>>>>>>> 'cabal' of AUK bullies.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? You abusers are too ignorant to read the writing on the wall.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? your reign of terror   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? There are more than a few AUK bullies who deserve their   
   >>>>>>>>> comeuppance   
   >>>>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>>>> public where they can be spat upon and pelted with rotten   
   >>>>>>>>> vegetables   
   >>>>>>>>> by   
   >>>>>>>>> those whom they have abused over the years as they are led out of   
   >>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>> courtroom in shackles.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? These fools would not hesitate to ridicule, parody, censor, and   
   >>>>>>>>> downgrade   
   >>>>>>>>> Atlas's opposing ideas if they felt they could benefit from doing   
   >>>>>>>>> so   
   >>>>>>>>> but   
   >>>>>>>>> their silence is deafening.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? As stupid as they are it seems to have gotten through their   
   >>>>>>>>> thick   
   >>>>>>>>> skulls   
   >>>>>>>>> to not play with fire anymore.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? stereotyped as cabalistic tools of a liberal smear machine using   
   >>>>>>>>> search   
   >>>>>>>>> and destroy tactics based upon their left-wing political ideology   
   >>>>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>>>> get   
   >>>>>>>>> their way.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? Names such as Rhonda, Miguel, Kali, Aratzio, Spooge, PJR etc.   
   >>>>>>>>> are   
   >>>>>>>>> all   
   >>>>>>>>> despicable examples of   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? a thug-run abuse of civil rights factory   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? Forget it you miscreants!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ? since you've demonstrated little or no wisdom in the past these   
   >>>>>>>>> words   
   >>>>>>>>> will   
   >>>>>>>>> most likely fall on the usual deaf ears   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I count at least twelve examples of you "[making] an argument by   
   >>>>>>>>> attacking   
   >>>>>>>>> and insulting those who hold opposing views."   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It can't be helped. When praising the praiseworthy one must give   
   >>>>>>>> context   
   >>>>>>>> or   
   >>>>>>>> one's argument lacks merit.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> One cannot talk of slaying the dragon without talking about, in   
   >>>>>>>> clear,   
   >>>>>>>> precise terms, the evil and treachery that is the dragon.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Are you saying your opening paragraph was deliberately deceitful?   
   >>>>>>> Reread   
   >>>>>>> your own words:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It's the case that, too often, people attempt to make an argument   
   >>>>>>>>> by   
   >>>>>>>>> attacking and insulting those who hold opposing views. I wish to   
   >>>>>>>>> do   
   >>>>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>>>> exact opposite:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Perhaps you missed it but I was enthusiastic in my praise of Atlas   
   >>>>>> Bugged.   
   >>>>>> Unfortunately one must necessarily give reason for such praise even   
   >>>>>> if   
   >>>>>> it   
   >>>>>> involves a realistic appraisal of the enemy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I didn't miss the smarmy homage to your hero; my comment is that the   
   >>>>> body   
   >>>>> of   
   >>>>> your essay failed to support the claim in your thesis statement, which   
   >>>>> makes   
   >>>>> you appear hypocritical, among other things.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Some might call it hypocrisy but I prefer to call it expert trolling. .   
   >>>> .   
   >>>> C'mon now, try spitting out the hook.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's the usual claim when one is hoisted by one's own petard.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> It's "hoist" not "hoisted."  Duh! Talk much?   
   >   
   > Not when used in the past tense, as in the preceding sentence, genius.   
   >   
   > "That's the usual claim when one is 'hoist' by one's own petard" is   
   > grammatically incorrect.   
   >   
   > Hoist \Hoist\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Hoisted; p. pr. & vb. n.   
   >   Hoisting.] [OE. hoise, hyse, OD. hyssen, D. hijshen; akin   
   >   to LG. hissen, Dan. hisse, Sw. hissa.]   
   >   To raise; to lift; to elevate; esp., to raise or lift to a   
   >   desired elevation, by means of tackle, as a sail, a flag, a   
   >   heavy package or weight.   
   >   
   > Hoisted: verb, simple past tense.   
   >   
   > But thanks for the grammar lame... er, lesson.   
   >   
      
      
   Hey, moron, if you repeat a famous quotation you should leave it as   
   originally written:   
      
   Hamlet:   
   There's letters seal'd, and my two schoolfellows,   
   Whom I will trust as I will adders fang'd-   
   They bear the mandate, they must sweep my way   
   And marshal me to knavery. Let it work;   
   For 'tis the sport to have the enginer   
   Hoist with his own petard, an't shall go hard   
   But I will delve one yard below their mines   
   And blow them at the moon.   
      
      
   Hamlet Act 3, scene 4, 202-209   
   "Hoist with his own petard" literally means "blown up with his own mine."   
   More generally, a "petard" is a hat-shaped device which can be be charged   
   with gunpowder.   
      
   Notice how "blown up" is past tense. Otherwise it would be "blew up" with   
   his own mine.   
      
   So many illiterates, so little time . . .   
      
   http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/hoist-with-his-own-petard   
      
      
   --   
   Gregory Hall   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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