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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   sarge wrote   
   > Rod Speed  wrote   
   >> sarge wrote   
   >>> Rod Speed  wrote   
   >>>> sarge wrote   
   >>>>> Immortalist  wrote   
   >>>>>> Rod Speed  wrote   
   >>>>>>> Immortalist wrote   
      
   >>>>>>>> (1) - Newer drugs, more social acceptance: It may be more   
   >>>>>>>> socially acceptable to be diagnosed with and treated for   
   >>>>>>>> depression. The availability of new drugs may also have been a   
   >>>>>>>> factor. (2) - Cost may be deterrent to talk therapy: Therapy is   
   >>>>>>>> as effective as, if not more effective than, drug use alone,...   
      
   >>>>>>> Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   >>>>>> What are the criteria for substantiating such a claim? Is it just   
   >>>>>> standard social science statistics and if so what is so hard   
   >>>>>> about deciding which methods lead to more or less problems?   
      
   >>>>>>>> out-of-pocket costs for psychotherapy and lower insurance   
   >>>>>>>> coverage for such visits may have driven patients away from   
   >>>>>>>> seeing therapists in favor of an easy-to-prescribe pill.   
      
   >>>>>>> And its pills that allowed the closing of so many of the old   
   >>>>>>> locked wards for loonys.   
      
   >>>>>> You mean if we didn't have the pills more people would be locked up?   
      
   >>>>> I believe he is inadvertantly describing the function of the pills.   
      
   >>>> Mindless conspiracy theory.   
      
   >>> It was your functional description.   
      
   >> You're lying, again.   
      
   >>> Honestly, I do not think it is all that is going on. But it is a component.   
      
   >> Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   >>> One that many people go along with themselves.   
      
   > You're unaware of the literature criticial of the overdiagnosing and   
   medication of children.   
      
   You're wrong. I have commented on that a number of times in here.   
      
   > Start with Peter Breggin's work.   
      
   Go and fuck yourself.   
      
   > If you are incapable of imagining the billions and billions of dollars can be   
   > motive and the resource to create vast 'research' and PR in support of BS.   
      
   Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   > But you probably voted for Bush also.   
      
   Guess which silly little terminal fuckwit has just got egg all over its   
   pathetic little face, yet again ?   
      
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