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   Message 53,799 of 54,659   
   Rod Speed to John Jones   
   Re: Reasons for the rise in Anti-Depress   
   11 Aug 09 06:08:50   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy, sci.econ, alt.psychology   
   XPost: alt.politics.economics   
   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   John Jones wrote:   
   > Rod Speed wrote:   
   >> John Jones wrote   
   >>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>> John Jones wrote   
   >>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>> John Jones wrote   
   >>>>>>> Immortalist wrote   
      
   >>>>>>>> (1) - Newer drugs, more social acceptance: It may be more   
   >>>>>>>> socially acceptable to be diagnosed with and treated for depression.   
   The availability of new drugs may also   
   >>>>>>>> have been a factor.   
      
   >>>>>>>> (2) - Cost may be deterrent to talk therapy: Therapy is as   
   >>>>>>>> effective as, if not more effective than, drug use alone,...   
   >>>>>>>> out-of-pocket costs for psychotherapy and lower insurance   
   >>>>>>>> coverage for such visits may have driven patients away from   
   >>>>>>>> seeing therapists in favor of an easy- to-prescribe pill.   
      
   >>>>>>> The reason for the presence and justification of antidepressant drugs   
   AT ALL is due to the culturally driven,   
   >>>>>>> illness model of behaviour.   
      
   >>>>>> Wrong. Depression has always been around, most used stuff like booze   
   for it previously.   
      
   >>>>> Depression is part of the illness model of behaviour. There's nothing   
   called "depression". It isn't even a   
   >>>>> fiction.   
      
   >>>> Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   >>> "Depression" can't be physically substantiated. The term is itself   
   unsubstantiated.   
      
   >> Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   > That's easy too.   
      
   Odd that you couldnt manage it then.   
      
   > Language is public, meaning is public.   
      
   Wrong with scientific terminology.   
      
   > But depression doesn't have a meaning,   
      
   Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   > even if it is publicly put out. Each person knows this for himself.   
      
   Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
      
   Whatever you want to call it, there is a real mental problem what produces a   
   significant rate of suicide.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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