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   XPost: alt.politics.economics   
   From: jonescardiff@btinternet.com   
      
   Rod Speed wrote:   
   > John Jones wrote:   
   >> Rod Speed wrote:   
   >>> John Jones wrote   
   >>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>> John Jones wrote   
   >>>>>> Rod Speed wrote   
   >>>>>>> John Jones wrote   
   >>>>>>>> Immortalist wrote   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>> (1) - Newer drugs, more social acceptance: It may be more   
   >>>>>>>>> socially acceptable to be diagnosed with and treated for depression.   
   The availability of new drugs may also   
   >>>>>>>>> have been a factor.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>> (2) - Cost may be deterrent to talk therapy: Therapy is as   
   >>>>>>>>> effective as, if not more effective than, drug use alone,...   
   >>>>>>>>> out-of-pocket costs for psychotherapy and lower insurance   
   >>>>>>>>> coverage for such visits may have driven patients away from   
   >>>>>>>>> seeing therapists in favor of an easy- to-prescribe pill.   
   >   
   >>>>>>>> The reason for the presence and justification of antidepressant drugs   
   AT ALL is due to the culturally driven,   
   >>>>>>>> illness model of behaviour.   
   >   
   >>>>>>> Wrong. Depression has always been around, most used stuff like booze   
   for it previously.   
   >   
   >>>>>> Depression is part of the illness model of behaviour. There's nothing   
   called "depression". It isn't even a   
   >>>>>> fiction.   
   >   
   >>>>> Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
   >   
   >>>> "Depression" can't be physically substantiated. The term is itself   
   unsubstantiated.   
   >   
   >>> Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
   >   
   >> That's easy too.   
   >   
   > Odd that you couldnt manage it then.   
   >   
   >> Language is public, meaning is public.   
   >   
   > Wrong with scientific terminology.   
   >   
   >> But depression doesn't have a meaning,   
   >   
   > Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
   >   
   >> even if it is publicly put out. Each person knows this for himself.   
   >   
   > Easy to claim.   
      
   No. You know it. I don't have to claim it.   
      
   > Have fun actually substantiating that claim.   
   >   
   > Whatever you want to call it, there is a real mental problem what produces a   
   significant rate of suicide.   
   > Shutup   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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