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|    M Winther to All    |
|    Re: Thanatos (1/2)    |
|    05 Jul 12 18:16:10    |
      XPost: alt.psychology, alt.psychology.jung, alt.psychology.psychoanalysis       XPost: sci.psychology.theory, sci.psychology.misc       From: mlwi@swipnet.se              The phallus is a god that stands on one leg, and has one eye looking       upwards. Wotan, who hung on the world ash, could set himself free from       the motherly tree, by the sacrifice of one of his eyes. Carl Jung, at       a tender age, dreamt of the phallus seated on a king's throne in an       underground hall, although at this young age he couldn't identify it       as such: "It was a huge thing reaching almost to the ceiling. But it       was made of a curious composition: it was made of skin and naked       flesh, and on top there was something like a rounded head with no face       and no hair. On the very top of the head was a single eye, gazing       motionlessly upward." His mother said "That is the man-eater." It was       a subterranean god, not to be named (Memories, Dreams Reflections,       pp.11f).              This was the deity responsible for the two greatest carnages in world       history, an epoch which Jung was destined to live through. We like to       think of our civilization as ruled by an enlightened spirit, but the       presence of the subterranean god can always be felt. Hatred, calumny,       and contemptuous remarks, are part and parcel of our culture. It       should be apparent to everyone that people aren't as good as they       pretend. It is a falsehood characteristic of our civilization.       Destructivity and malevolence does not depend on a misunderstanding,       as always supposed. Most people, it seems, cannot withstand an       opportunity to damage other people provided that they risk no harm       themselves. Malevolence is used as a means of self-therapy. For this       reason, it is exceedingly difficult to maintain civility in an       Internet discussion forum.              Why do people subscribe to ideologies, such as multiculturalism and       cultural relativism? It has nothing to do with ethical motives. In       fact, through ideological affiliation the adherents are able to       castigate other people as devils. A multiculturalist notoriously       accuses people of antidemocratic views, racism, right wing extremism,       egoism, etc. This is the great allurement of collective ideologies, to       be able to bully people. The only consequence is that one's social       status is augmented. Such people cannot get along in life without       recourse to calumniation. In another epoch, they would have       appropriated the politically correct norms of that particular period       in time. With great likelihood, they would have been firm Nazis. It       enables them to partake in collective hatred, which is really the       underlying motif, deriving from the god of Thanatos. They subscribe to       the prevailing views on account of their political correctness,       henceforth enabling them to demonize other people. It has nothing to       do with the moral and intellectual content of the ideology, as such.       The average multiculturalist of today, would have been a full-fledged       Nazi in the thirties.              They lack heartfelt convictions and merely parrot the standard tenets.       The notion of political correctness means that people program       themselves according to the most popular ideologies, whereas a proper       understanding is lacking. Intellectual understanding is not possible       anyway, since the ideology is only a chimera serving as concealment       for the subterranean god. Their motivation to partake in the movement       is to be able to make people suffer. Again, destructivity is       functional. It does not derive from misunderstandings. In fact,       Thanatos-driven people thrive on "misunderstandings". They have no       wish to avoid them.              There are only two alternatives; either you have faith or you have       ideology. In the Old Testament we can observe how the once       all-encompassing religious cosmogony, characteristic of ancient Egypt,       splits into the opposites of Faith and Law. In the ensuing battle,       faith came out victorious, in the form of Christianity. According to       Pauline Christianity, the Law is revoked and faith has taken       precedence. The same struggle is today ongoing in Islam, where       'sharia' (law) seems to prevail. Modern ideology in all its plenitude       represents a throwback to the pharisaic mind-set. A modern ideological       framework is an intellectual algorithm corresponding to the religious       law of olden days. Horus and Christ are connected with the       life-principle of faith, whereas Seth, and Old Testamental Jahve,       focus on zeal and demand blood sacrifice. In Norse and Teutonic       mythology, Wotan (Oden) is the lawgiver.              Mats Winther              "M Winther" |
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