XPost: alt.drugs.psychedelics, alt.philosophy, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: sbalneav@alburg.net   
      
   In alt.atheism Dale  wrote:   
   > On 12/27/2012 02:47 PM, sbalneav wrote:   
   >> In alt.atheism Dale  wrote:   
   >>> On 12/26/2012 08:09 PM, sbalneav wrote:   
   >>>> Again, I ask, why should any of us accept this eastern mysticism woo   
   bullshit   
   >>>> as true?   
   >>>   
   >>> it started with me coming to the conclusion that the only empirical   
   >>> thing is consciousness, everything other part of reality cannot be   
   >>> distinguished from a dream   
   >>   
   >> And I dispute that.  Counterpoint: suicide.   
   >   
   > you move on to another life   
      
   By "move on to another life", are you talking reincarnation?  Or something in   
   the supernatural realm?   
      
   >>> you don't experience sensory perception, you experience a "mental image"   
   >>> that the mind creates from sensory input   
   >>>   
   >>> the rest followed easily   
   >>>   
   >>> care to discuss any one part?   
   >>   
   >> If I dream that I kill myself, do I die?   
   >>   
   >   
   > if you don't wake up you move on to another life perhaps   
      
   If *I* don't wake up, isn't that indicitive of an objective reality outside my   
   own thoughts?  Or are you asserting that there IS no objective reality outside   
   your own thoughts? (Solipsism)   
      
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