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   From: les@shant.tell   
      
   On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:21:51 -0800, "Checkmate, DoW #1"   
    wrote:   
      
   >In article , les@shant.tell   
   >says...   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 01:07:41 -0800, "Checkmate, DoW #1"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >In article <1mi18qz.1nu47mf136l5a9N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2   
   >> >@gmail.com says...   
   >> >   
   >> >   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Checkmate, DoW #1  wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >> >> [...]   
   >> >>   
   >> >> > > > >> Insulting God will only ensure you suffer a plethora of   
   incurrable   
   >> >> > > > >> diseases.  But then, stupid is, as stupid does.   
   >> >> > > > >   
   >> >> > > > >   
   >> >> > > > >What god? What is your evidence that it exists?   
   >> >> > > > >   
   >> >> > > > >   
   >> >> > > > >But thanks for confessing that your god is the worst kind of   
   narcisstic   
   >> >> > > > >monster.   
   >> >> > > >   
   >> >> > > > The more you deny Him, the worse will be your suffering in Hell.   
   >> >> > >   
   >> >> > > How can I deny something for which there is no evidence.   
   >> >> > >   
   >> >> > > And, please fool, your threats don't scare atheists because we have   
   no   
   >> >> > > reason to believe them.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > As an agnostic, I don't know if I should be concerned or not.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >>   
   >> >> It's the only rational standpoint.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >   
   >> >It truly is.  The  atheists can't prove there isn't a Creator, and the   
   >> >believers can't prove there is.   
   >>   
   >> Since I am completely absent of knowledge* (am agnostic) with   
   >> respect to what others call 'gods' I am not justified in sharing the   
   >> theist belief there is one (or more) so I am not a theist. As we   
   >> know the phrase 'not a theist' can be abbreviated to 'atheist' using   
   >> the standard dictionary prefix qualifier a- which means 'no' or   
   >> without   
   >>   
   >> Obviously as a non theist (atheist)  I can no more demonstrate there   
   >> is no god than the theist can demonstrate there is one but I do not   
   >> need to given that I am not  making any claims regarding these gods   
   >> that others claim. The just don't not mean a thing to me   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> * this is not to say there is no knowledge out there somewhere   
   >> of a god just that I am not aware of any. I can only make decisions   
   >> based on what I know   
   >>   
   >> >Agnosticism is truly the only rational   
   >> >conclusion that anyone can come to.   
   >>   
   >> Absence of knowledge (agnostic) is a degree of knowledge not   
   >> a conclusion about it.   
   >>   
   >> > I'd like to think there's a   
   >> >Creator, but if there is, I have to conclude that he doesn't wish to   
   >> >make his presence known.   
   >>   
   >> To talk about a 'creator' (sic) as if there is one as you do here   
   >> indicates you are a theist   
   >   
   >   
   >Please try reading for comprehension.  Notice I said I'd LIKE to think   
   >there's a "'creator (sic)' [sic]" and then I include the qualifiers   
   >"but" and "if".   
      
   Yes you are right sorry about that slight misunderstanding   
      
   Les Hellawell   
   Grreting from   
   YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County   
      
   Martin Luther wrote::   
   "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding   
      
   Which means that if Luther practised what he preached   
   nothing he ever said made any sense   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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