XPost: alt.atheism, alt.fan.karl-malden.nose, alt.philosophy.checkmate
XPost: alt.usenet.kooks
From: skeet@invalid.invalid
On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 13:20:59 -0600, pandora wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 10:38:56 -0800, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>
>> In article , les@shant.tell
>> says...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 08:21:51 -0800, "Checkmate, DoW #1"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article ,
>>> >les@shant.tell says...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 01:07:41 -0800, "Checkmate, DoW #1"
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >In article <1mi18qz.1nu47mf136l5a9N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, snipeco.2
>>> >> >@gmail.com says...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> [...]
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > > > >> Insulting God will only ensure you suffer a plethora of
>>> >> >> > > > >> incurrable diseases. But then, stupid is, as stupid
>>> >> >> > > > >> does.
>>> >> >> > > > >
>>> >> >> > > > >
>>> >> >> > > > >What god? What is your evidence that it exists?
>>> >> >> > > > >
>>> >> >> > > > >
>>> >> >> > > > >But thanks for confessing that your god is the worst kind
>>> >> >> > > > >of narcisstic monster.
>>> >> >> > > >
>>> >> >> > > > The more you deny Him, the worse will be your suffering in
>>> >> >> > > > Hell.
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > How can I deny something for which there is no evidence.
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > And, please fool, your threats don't scare atheists because
>>> >> >> > > we have no reason to believe them.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > As an agnostic, I don't know if I should be concerned or not.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> It's the only rational standpoint.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >It truly is. The atheists can't prove there isn't a Creator, and
>>> >> >the believers can't prove there is.
>>> >>
>>> >> Since I am completely absent of knowledge* (am agnostic) with
>>> >> respect to what others call 'gods' I am not justified in sharing the
>>> >> theist belief there is one (or more) so I am not a theist. As we
>>> >> know the phrase 'not a theist' can be abbreviated to 'atheist' using
>>> >> the standard dictionary prefix qualifier a- which means 'no' or
>>> >> without
>>> >>
>>> >> Obviously as a non theist (atheist) I can no more demonstrate there
>>> >> is no god than the theist can demonstrate there is one but I do not
>>> >> need to given that I am not making any claims regarding these gods
>>> >> that others claim. The just don't not mean a thing to me
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> * this is not to say there is no knowledge out there somewhere of a
>>> >> god just that I am not aware of any. I can only make decisions based
>>> >> on what I know
>>> >>
>>> >> >Agnosticism is truly the only rational conclusion that anyone can
>>> >> >come to.
>>> >>
>>> >> Absence of knowledge (agnostic) is a degree of knowledge not a
>>> >> conclusion about it.
>>> >>
>>> >> > I'd like to think there's a
>>> >> >Creator, but if there is, I have to conclude that he doesn't wish
>>> >> >to make his presence known.
>>> >>
>>> >> To talk about a 'creator' (sic) as if there is one as you do here
>>> >> indicates you are a theist
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Please try reading for comprehension. Notice I said I'd LIKE to think
>>> >there's a "'creator (sic)' [sic]" and then I include the qualifiers
>>> >"but" and "if".
>>>
>>> Yes you are right sorry about that slight misunderstanding
>>>
>>> Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
>>>
>>> Martin Luther wrote::
>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>>
>>> Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever
>>> said made any sense
>>
>> Well, thank you.
>
>OMG! Someone being polite on usenet.
I bet it's a well disguised troll.
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