XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.politics.democrats   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/10/2025 5:11 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 9/10/25 4:28 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 9/8/2025 8:06 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   >>> There's a pattern here:  You're an idiot.   
   >   
   >> Yep   
   >   
   > So circling back to the beginning:  WHY would a warmer earth   
   > be worse than the alternative?   
   >   
   > You do know that stagnation is impossible. That, the climate   
   > is never going to remain the same. That, even within the   
   > Holocene -- which you don't even know what it is -- the   
   > climate has fluctuated a great deal, easily more so than the   
   > scariest of the scary Gwobull Warbling scenarios.   
   >   
   > Right? You DO know this. Right?   
   >   
   > So why would warmer be better than the alternative, when   
   > the alternative literally spell death for many millions if   
   > not billions?   
      
   It is unreasonable not to take the IPCC models at least as being a   
   serious possibility.  Over a century ago, the physical chemist Svante   
   Arrhenius (a Nobel laureate in chemistry) did the back-of-the-envelope   
   calculation:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius   
      
   His value for a doubling of CO2 was "5–6 degrees Celsius" increase in   
   global temperatures:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_science   
      
   You can view the latest numbers here:   
      
   https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/   
      
   It's hard for me to imagine what another 4 or 5 degree increase would be   
   like.  Remember, we're mammals, and it just takes a day or two of   
   temperatures greater than 50C to kill lots of living, breathing things.   
      
   Dawn   
      
   P.S.  Thank you (and, I say this with sincerity) for being polite by at   
   least not calling people (such as myself) names, but still, it would be   
   nicer if you could be at least a little more respectful towards others'   
   positions.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)