XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/13/2025 4:40 PM, None wrote:   
   > On Sep 13, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > (Message-ID: <10a4i4p$lt9j$2@dont-email.me>):   
   >   
   >> On 9/13/2025 1:24 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>> None   wrote in news:10a4a71$j4ov$2@dont-email.me:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sep 13, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> None   wrote in news:10a2ubk$5del$3@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   >>>>>> (Message-ID:<4ti9ckpfrip5vckkmrc81ri5iqi25uujj6@4ax.com>):   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 17:18:56 -0700, None  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   >>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<0oc9ck53j37rmkq3hv6u0m5klmi87d33ib@4ax.com>):   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 12:56:54 -0700, None   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<7qp8ckhb1epb3r83oopm8j4sub39g8ftog@4ax.com>):   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 21:37:20 -0700, None   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> are right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> would be no earthquakes.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The continents move at about the rate at which   
   >>>>>>>>>>> fingernails grow. When two continents (or, more   
   >>>>>>>>>>> precisely, the tectonic plates they are a part of) move   
   >>>>>>>>>>> past each other, sometimes they get "stuck" on the rough   
   >>>>>>>>>>> edges of the plates they're moving past. The pressure to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> keep moving persists, though, and finally the two plates   
   >>>>>>>>>>> break apart from each other. The energy released when   
   >>>>>>>>>>> they break apart is an earthquake.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You just showed that the continents stop moving   
   >>>>>>>>>> periodically, and you did not   
   >>>>>>>>>> post how much they jumped when an earthquake happens.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Why do you need to know that?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I don’t, but you do so as not to make foolish declarations.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If you didn't need to know, why did you ask the question?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Yet we often see the   
   >>>>>>>>>> evidences of that when the ground opens up and the gap left   
   >>>>>>>>>> can be seen in inches to yards. It is inconsistent   
   >>>>>>>>>> movement. Many have seen the earth opening and closing in   
   >>>>>>>>>> mere moments as is caught on video.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> No, there aren't *that* many earthquakes. The rate of   
   >>>>>>>>> movement has been measured with satellites and other such   
   >>>>>>>>> precision instruments.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Wow, are you really lacking that much, there are literally   
   >>>>>>>> 100’s to 1,000’s of earthquakes every day.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Which is not many at any given spot on the earth.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> All volcanos would erupt and known cycles and explosive   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> rates.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> No, volcanic eruptions are caused by other factors   
   >>>>>>>>>>> besides just the rate at which tectonic plates move.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> So you agreed with, me as well as added more excuses which   
   >>>>>>>>>> you could not rationalize.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> LOL! That was the last comment I made, so no more "excuses"   
   >>>>>>>>> could have been added.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> However in this case, I was correct and did not make a trolling   
   >>>>>>>> off the wall comment like you did.   
   >>>>>>> "Trolling off the wall"? What is that?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> There are designed in limitations to all the realities of   
   >>>>>>>>>> this realm. Which   
   >>>>>>>>>> the forces of realm must adhere to, and that is why all   
   >>>>>>>>>> these natural laws and rules can be identified via the   
   >>>>>>>>>> reverse engineering of sciences. Which is why there is   
   >>>>>>>>>> order.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Reverse engineering from what to what? How do you know the   
   >>>>>>>>> order hasn't always been there?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That is what I said, the order of this realm was there all   
   >>>>>>>> along, ever since it was made.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> No, I mean without it ever being made.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Do you know anything about reverse engineering?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Reverse engineering is when you figure out something's design by   
   >>>>>>> studying its function. What does that have to do with the "realm"   
   >>>>>>> of science?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> There is another realm to which none of these laws of order   
   >>>>>>>>>> apply. Yet like   
   >>>>>>>>>> anhydrous ammonia and water can dwell together in the same   
   >>>>>>>>>> physical space, so can the two realms exist. Water being   
   >>>>>>>>>> similar to the elements of this realm.   
   >>>>>>>>>> If you have any scientific knowledge you should be able to   
   >>>>>>>>>> understand that.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What makes you think there is another realm?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I do not think it, I know it is real and exists, something you   
   >>>>>>>> all deny, yet you are affected by its realty.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What makes you think you know it's real? And how does that affect   
   >>>>>>> the rest of us?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You have totally lost your trolling touch.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I had to laugh at some of your comments/questions/reasonings.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> you are out of phase, even with your own statements. That is sad to   
   >>>>>> see. :(   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> This is how all arguments with Christians end.   
   >>>>> They toss out some claims, you ask intelligent   
   >>>>> questions about them, they ignore them, call   
   >>>>> you a troll and run away. As with Robert, as   
   >>>>> with Andrew, as with this “None”.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ROTFLOL You consider your questions intelligent? Based upon what? Ego?   
   >>>> A point to argue that is based on foolishness?   
   >>>   
   >>> Your claim:   
   >>>   
   >>>> The earth as you know it was not until it was called earth on the   
   >>>> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were not until the   
   >>>> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around 6,000 years ago.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I just asked what happened 6009   
   >>> years ago and where does the Bible   
   >>> say that.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> You need to learn in order to have knowledge, and then use that   
   >>>> knowledge to come up with a well defined question that is not based on   
      
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