XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian
From: none@none.non
On Sep 14, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote
(Message-ID:):
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 21:23:52 -0700, None wrote:
>
> > On Sep 13, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote
> > (Message-ID:<8ebcck1pfpb7it0366gpp9d1csauc7ciih@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 19:02:27 -0700, None wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote
> > > > (Message-ID:):
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 17:01:55 -0700, None wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote
> > > > > > (Message-ID:):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 14:06:02 -0700, None wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote
> > > > > > > > (Message-ID: <10a4c55$jrvu$4@dont-email.me>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 9/13/2025 12:26 PM, None wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Historically both answers are written in the Bible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please do not waste too much of your time on this stuff.
Life is far
> > > > > > > > > too short!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dawn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This ’stuff’ ? If you are speaking of the things of God
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think she was saying that they're not things of God to begin
with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > then this short
> > > > > > > > time we have is extremely vital to our eternal futures.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christians throughout the ages have believed that they lived in
the
> > > > > > > end times -- from Paul who clearly believed he would be alive and
> > > > > > > waiting for Jesus when the world came to an end, to Christians
who
> > > > > > > believed that 1000 CE portended an end of the world, to the
Millerites
> > > > > > > of the 19th century Great Disappointment who calculated that the
world
> > > > > > > would end in October 1844 -- so perhaps you shouldn't be so sure
that
> > > > > > > "time is short.”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We were told to be constantly vigilant and live our lives expected
the
> > > > > > suddenly of suddenlies. After all who wants to be caught short
like the
> > > > > > 5
> > > > > > virgins left behind.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, couldn't they get a second chance?!
> > > >
> > > > If they make it through the initial WWW alive, yes, but from what I
Read
> > > > that
> > > > they must not recant. For many will be beheaded after torture.
> > >
> > > And God can't overcome that?
> >
> > Would you rather operate like a robot without free will. Or should it only
> > be
> > the freedom of choice for some people but not all?
>
> So in the parable of the 10 virgins, the virgins who were "caught
> short" didn't *want* to go into the wedding feast? Oh they wanted to
alright, but they were too entangled with the affairs of this world to be
ready.
When they realized that their relationship with the bridegroom had gone cold
and after asking the others to give them what they needed to enter be ready,
the bridegroom had already come and swept the others away. When the
indifferent ones found out, they came banging on the doors to let them in but
the bridegroom said to them, leave, I never knew you.
You see, the weddings of the Jewish culture was after the couple was
‘engaged’ the bride was to get ready for marriage, and during the
following year the bridegroom could come at any time and snatch her away, she
was notified in a very short time by his best friends who would blow their
horns announcing he was coming, on his way, and then he would suddenly come
and snatch her away, to the place or room that he had built for them at his
fathers house, and there they would dwell for a year, for their honeymoon.
Neither worked, for that first year was all their time to know each other..
that is what Jesus has done for his bride as well. The wedding feast was
enjoyed by both families for up to a month as they partied and celebrated the
marriage.
>
>
> > In those days, God pulls out that which holders back evil for those seven
> > years. But these things you would never understand as you do not know who
> > God is.
>
> Cite?
“For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now
restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.” (2Th 2:7)
>
>
> > There is so much answers that God holds in his hand, but how are those
> > that oppose him going to hear? They can’t, they are not willing and so
> > they have not the ears to hear.
>
> Why do you believe that?
That is made most obvious by the atheist, but the same thing is occurring
with those that believe there is a God, but they are more interested in the
affairs of this world that they have no time for God, and or they don’t
want him messing with the sins they enjoy. Some are bitter towards him
because he didn’t jump to their commands or demands.
>
>
> > > > > > Yet Jesus gave us the signs, and when they are all
> > > > > > happening at the same time, with an increasing ferocity and the
nations
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > all lined up as specified for a future war of MAJOR proportions.
There
> > > > > > is not much left to be fulfilled before Jesus comes in the air.
> > > > >
> > > > > War, not peace, is the norm for cities and states in ancient times
and
> > > > > even in the modern world. Any "signs" of Jesus' supposed return have
> > > > > long since occurred, without any end of the world to go with them.
> > > >
> > > > Nope, for a prophecy to be fulfilled all aspects of it must happen.
Only
> > > > partial aspects that fit near the defined prophecy, will they protected
> > > > those
> > > > that were aware, were not the actual fulfillment.
> > >
> > > Presumably, Isaiah's "prophecy" was written before Damascus was
> > > rebuilt.
> >
> > You have had that discussion with others about that prophecy, but you
> > dismissed the words of the Bible to accept a supposition of man who had not
> > the ears to hear what was written.
>
> What was the name of the person with whom I supposedly had this
> discussion? I don’t recall who all, but it was only a few months back.
>
> > > > > > For instance, if you see the city of Damascus totally destroyed in
one
> > > > > > night, as described in the Bible, I don’t see what else is left
before
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Tribulation. Plus there is a viable chance that that is the
trigger.
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