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   Message 94,063 of 95,770   
   jojo to Dawn Flood   
   Re: Paleo anthropology is NOT a real sci   
   15 Sep 25 17:32:50   
   
   XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian   
   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Dawn Flood wrote:   
   > On 9/13/2025 9:35 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>> On 9/13/2025 2:09 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>> jojo wrote:   
   >>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:34 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<7eda1708-   
   >>>>>>>> e6d3-9729-9571-07b6d26f6447@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<06a0238b-feb9-9555-   
   >>>>>>>>>> dd59-2b9bffd6e3a0@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:43 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: <10a1e6t$3jm3q$2@dont-email.me>):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 7:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None   wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:10a081v$366mu$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None   wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109vbc8$2tbin$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:rKAwQ.12261$7F4e.8283@fx05.ams4:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109tfa4$29gbi$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To sum-up, paleoanthropology is a valid   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science, because,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Major universities exist which offer   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doctoral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The US National Academy of Sciences has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropologists to its ranks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Peer-reviewed research journals exist for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Few, if any, scientists dispute the fact   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology is a valid science.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of all that you say above, it is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are at a complete loss of words when I ask   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to tell us about any specific   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleo-anthropological   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery that shows that they have enlightened   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us about ~anything~...in your own words.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a "complete loss of words"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell us the age of the earth, or even   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us your opinion of it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The earth as you know it was not until it was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth on the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 6,000   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. In   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal time, not figurative nor theoretical.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6,000?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you determine that date?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What date? I mentioned time approximate.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, "time approximate"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6000 years?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened then?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And are their so called ""discoveries""   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built upon   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific method, or are they built upon   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fantasy?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who want the truth do not accept   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stories that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are built upon fantasy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Christian: Someone who believes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in dragons, unicorns, talking snakes and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmutation (all mentioned in the Bible)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but accuses those citing scientific data   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "indulging in fantasies".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I do not fit your daffynition.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific data only recounts what is reversed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineered, and from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that understanding, some try to create   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variations based   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the same   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that always existed in the time of man,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reshape,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reuse,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most generally it all contaminates the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth and its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earthquakes. All volcanos would erupt and known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosive   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rates.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If such massive errors are made then what   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credibility does   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your statement have.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science has recently recognized another light   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form, one   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoken of near 5,000 years ago + or - and they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have yet to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determine   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its parameters.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
      
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