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   Message 94,167 of 95,770   
   JTEM to Oleg Smirnov   
   Re: Abiogenesis isn't science   
   18 Sep 25 19:40:44   
   
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   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
     Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
      
   > How do we (living humans) distingwish between what is a living thing and   
   > what is a non-life? This question seems   
   > to be needed to be answered first before speculations on   
   > artificial creation of life from non-life.   
      
   Already been done. Long ago.   
      
   Yes the web now sucks. I thought I'd do the proverbial 30 second   
   Google search, post a URL, but we're in the post information age   
   now.   
      
   Google A.I. said there are 5 criteria for life. And a little   
   further down stated there was seven...   
      
   Here's NASA's take on it. Seeing how they allegedly are in an   
   active search for life, THIS is what they claim to be looking   
   for:   
      
   https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/education/alp/characteristics-of-life/   
      
   > Scientists (both falsifiers and bona fide scholars) from   
   > time to time claim they've managed to make something that   
   > seems to be alive, but it usually doesn't go much far.   
      
   I'm not aware of anyone making a serious claim. For life.   
      
   > It is true it wouldn't prove abiogenesis, but as well it   
   > is not true it would prove that creationism is possible.   
      
   It would be an actual example of creationism. You can't get better   
   "Proof" than that.   
      
   If scientists managed to produce life from non life under laboratory   
   conditions, it would be intelligent beings creating life by design.   
      
   Period.   
      
      
      
      
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