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   Oleg Smirnov to All   
   Re: Abiogenesis isn't science   
   20 Sep 25 14:03:03   
   
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   From: os333@netc.eu   
      
   Kenito Benito,    
   > On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 15:40:26 +0300, "Oleg Smirnov"    
   >> Andrew,    
      
   >>> Living things are able to carry out bio-chemical reactions   
   >>> in the process of their metabolism. They grow, reproduce   
   >>> and respond to stimuli   
   >>   
   >> Also they are collective, and (except the autotrophs)   
   >> they survive through killing or injuring living things   
   >> from other species and eating their flesh.   
   >   
   >     Most certainly can. There are herbivores; life forms that eat   
   > only plant matter. I think elephants are one such life form. There are   
   > others, of course.   
      
   The semi-figurative flesh above includes plant matter as well.   
   The way life takes energy from nature is arranged so that lower   
   species function as accumulators storing energy in the forms   
   suited for consumption by higher species. From observation of   
   life on earth one can see similar living things are multiple   
   within a species, and one more fact is that survival of higher   
   species suggests their consumption of lower species.   
      
   This observation hints that a desire to make life artificially   
   by design may be non-implementable in the form of creating one   
   or few living things.   
      
   The autotrophs are of special significancy, as they are the   
   kind taking energy directly from non-organic sources. This kind   
   includes inter alia living organism very simple in biological   
   sense, but even for them artificial models haven't been created.   
   E.g. artificial reproduction of photosynthesis would be a   
   scientific sea change, but this topic is less catchy, more boring,   
   less attractive to stock investors.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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