XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 22, 2025, Andrew wrote   
   (Message-ID: <6edAQ.11750$l35b.1249@fx08.ams4>):   
      
   > "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message   
   > news:51k2dkp25k552cd68ir6p4luk488q1qia2@4ax.com...   
   > > "Andrew" wrote:   
   > > > "JTEM" wrote:   
   > > > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Yes, but the Jews vehemently petitioned Pilate, specifically for Him   
   to   
   > > > > > be crucified.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I don't believe it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It seems that the Romans, who invented the story, cast the hated   
   > > > > Jews as the bad guys.   
   > > >   
   > > > But they were Jews themselves who wrote what happened..   
   > >   
   > > Judaism was the main competition for the early Christian church,   
   >   
   > The early Christian church were Jews...converted by the   
   > powerful truth that Jesus was the Messiah in fulfillment   
   > of all the messianic prophecies that were given to them.   
   >   
   > > so they tried to make "the Jews" look as bad as possible   
   > > when they made up their stories about Jesus.   
   >   
   > Jesus was Jewish and was the anti-type of the prophetic   
   > symbols that were given to them..The apostle Paul based   
   > much of his evangelical efforts on the Jewish scriptures.   
      
   Paul while well trained in Judaism, who was well trained in many arenas as he   
   was also a Roman Citizen by birth with all the benefits thereof, was   
   Howver,... read especially or not verse 12   
      
   Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of   
   me is not after man.   
      
   Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taughtit, but by the   
   revelation of Jesus Christ.   
      
   Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews'   
   religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted   
   it:   
      
   Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own   
   nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.   
      
   Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and   
   called me by his grace,   
      
   Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen;   
   immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:   
      
   Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before   
   me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.   
      
   Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and   
   abode with him fifteen days.   
      
   Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.   
      
   Gal 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie   
   not.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > Look at the "Jewish" rebellions -- plural -- if you want to know   
   > > > > why the Romans would want to do that.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's for sure. The Romans slaughtered them big time in 70 AD.   
   > > >   
   > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%2870_CE%29   
      
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