XPost: alt.paranormal, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: sam@spade.invalid   
      
   Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   > None  wrote in news:10bfb1b$3c42b$3@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 29, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > >   
   > >> None   wrote in news:10bd61d$2qa7f$1@dont-email.me:   
   > >>   
   > >> > On Sep 28, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > >> > (Message-ID: <10bd4bd$2pve1$1@dont-email.me>):   
   > >> >   
   > >> > > On 9/28/2025 11:37 PM, None wrote:   
   > >> > > > On Sep 28, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > >> > > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > >> > > >   
   > >> > > > > > The seven stars of the Pleiades   
   > >> > > > > > are noted as being fixed in the skies, which was hotly   
   > >> > > > > > contested as well, and by ’science’. A few   
   > >> > > > > > years ago it was decided by the same   
   > >> > > > > > people that yes, they are fixed. As the bible determined   
   > >> > > > > > them to be. They used a different term for their   
   > >> > > > > > positioning lest them fall into the religious trap. The   
   > >> > > > > > North Star has been used for navigation both on land and on   
   > >> > > > > > water for that reason.   
   > >> > > > >   
   > >> > > > > Wrong.   
   > >> > > > >   
   > >> > > > > No stars are "fixed" in the sky. The   
   > >> > > > > solar system is moving around the center   
   > >> > > > > of the galaxy at 518,000 mph. In addition   
   > >> > > > > it moves vertcally within the galactic   
   > >> > > > > plane. Ergo all the stars we see are moving   
   > >> > > > > relative to our position. Just because our   
   > >> > > > > lifetimes are too short to notice it does   
   > >> > > > > not mean it is not happening.   
   > >> > > >   
   > >> > > > Not only do I accept and believe the word of God above Man as   
   > >> > > > well as over the evil one, I also have done a certain amount of   
   > >> > > > research on the subject as   
   > >> > > > to astronomy and the sciences, keep abreast of things that go   
   > >> > > > one and the discoveries, and while the wording of the   
   > >> > > > scientists did not match the bible word of word, what they   
   > >> > > > discovered they said exonerated what the bible said, but with   
   > >> > > > scientific evidences, say like their positions remained   
   > >> > > > consistent with the placement of the earth. Which, as a matter   
   > >> > > > of fact inspire of the megaflow's of tsunamis which far   
   > >> > > > exceeded any nuclear group of forces. Yet while it changed the   
   > >> > > > axis of the earth the earth remained fixed in its orbit.   
   > >> > > > Forces like that would knock most planets off their positions.   
   > >> > >   
   > >> > > How do you know that the Bible was not being symbolic (again)?   
   > >> >   
   > >> > There is and was no reason for symbolism.   
   > >>   
   > >> That is a refreshing change from   
   > >> Artie/Joe and his "That nonsensical   
   > >> story is just a metaphor" and "That   
   > >> passage was just written as symbolismâ€?   
   > > I was speaking in reference to your point. There are some things that   
   > > are symbolic, that cannot be understood or comprehended by the   
   > > unwashed.   
   >   
   >   
   >       Why would God create a meassage   
   > of Divine Truth that humanity cannot   
   > understand?   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > >  But that is no excuse for being ignorant of the scriptures.   
   > >   
   > >   
   >   
   >      Just back up your claim that the   
   > describes the Earth as a sphere   
   >   
   >   
   > "The bible describes a sphere."   
   > "None", Sept 29 2025   
      
      
   Robert doesn't know that there is a passage in Luke that could be read   
   to support a spheroidal earth:   
      
      
   Luke 17, in which Jesus is talking about the rapture:   
      
   34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one   
   shall be taken, and the other shall be left.   
   35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the   
   other left.   
   36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other   
   left.   
      
   V34 happens at night.  In v35 and v36, people are presumably engaged in   
   daytime work.  If the Rapture happened everywhere at the same time, it   
   implies a spherical world.  We do note that v34 infers that gayness   
   doesn't disqualify one from being enraptured.   
      
   OTOH, it could be a "rolling Rapture" beginning at the SW Corner of the   
   Earth where the lettuce pickers toiled, rolling along to the NE Corner   
   12 hours later, where the gay christian slept with his partner by night   
   as angels tooted their horns.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)