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   chine.bleu to Bill Flett   
   Re: IT'S SO HOT THAT IT'S COLD!!! Heat c   
   16 Nov 25 21:44:14   
   
   XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.atheism, alt.paranormal   
   XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com   
      
   Bill Flett wrote:   
   > On 16 Nov 2025, Dawn Flood  posted some   
   > news:10fe7c1$k0c5$1@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On 11/16/2025 4:28 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   >>> On 11/16/25 5:17 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Look at the 'Global-mean monthly...', the   
   >>>   
   >>> What's going to change, the fact that NOBODY is pretending a state   
   >>> date within the 20th century, the fact that it got COOLER until the   
   >>> late 1970s, the fact that it was WARMER in the 1930s -- amongst   
   >>> other dates prior to 1940 -- or the fact that you keep proving that   
   >>> you don't even know your own narrative?   
   >>>   
   >>> Seriously, if you're going to defend a hoax, you'd best learn what   
   >>> that hoax says... and it ain't a 1940 start date, nor any date in   
   >>> the 20th century.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> That is not what the GISS data indicates.  You can claim that the   
   >> dataset is wrong, and that's fine, but if not, download the Global   
   >> CSV, and use Excel, Libre/Open Office, R (my favorite, which is   
   >> free!), or some online program and plot the annual as a time series.   
   >> You can test the regression coefficient; the confidence interval does   
   >> not include zero.   
   >>   
   >> The fact that some years after 1940 were cooler misses the point   
   >> entirely; it appears that 1940 was 3 SD above the 1880 to 1940 mean,   
   >> and so, that's where I would put things as having "started out".   
   >   
   > We call that moving the goal posts.   
   >   
      
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