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   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/7/25 7:44 AM, Attila wrote:   
   > On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 18:51:44 -0500, JTEM    
      
   >> I don't buy that. You have "Encountered" me even from afar, even   
   >> without ny physical proximity.   
      
   > Not afar enough.   
      
   Your halitosis is legendary but its range is limited.   
      
   So stop being a pussy. I just established that you don't need   
   physical contact, not even proximity, to qualify as an "Encounter,"   
   and you couldn't deal with being wrong.   
      
   Admit it; you were wrong!   
      
   >> We can "encounter" alien civilizations. For most of them, even   
   >> "Intelligent" species, the term "Civilization" wouldn't even   
   >> apply, they'd be so primitive, so this "Encounter" would be   
   >> one-way.   
      
   > None of that has happened as far as aliens are concerned.   
      
   And?   
      
   Did you forget the context?   
      
   Look up at the subject line. Maybe that'll help your memory.   
      
   >> No. We have the means to detect "Biosignatures" and even   
   >> "Technosignatures." It likely will take some time and study   
   >> before this method is accepted, because we could (can) make   
   >> such detections beyond 100 light years already.   
      
   > Not with any certainty.   
      
   "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs" so the   
   standards here are quite high. But, I have often noted that the   
   goalpost keeps getting shifted.   
      
   There was a testing looking at carbon isotopes, for example,   
   that was considered definitive in determining if fossil like   
   structures found in rocks were indeed fossils or just formations   
   that happened to look like fossils.   
      
   We're talking about microbes here, not animals.   
      
   Anyway, this test supposedly "Settled" the argument on what were   
   thought to be the planet's oldest fossils ever found, proving   
   they were in fact fossils. That's how sound this test was. Until   
   it came back positive for some fossilized life from rock   
   originating outside of earth. Then it instantly stopped being   
   definitive.   
      
   >> No. The vast majority would be at our level OR LESS.   
      
   > Nonsense.   
      
   You could not be more wrong. It's inescapable.   
      
   There are just too many ways to drive a species to extinction.   
   The simple fact is that there would have to be fewer surviving   
   to a point of industrialization than existed in a primitive   
   stage.   
      
   > We can do no such activity at our current level.   
      
   Wrong. We do have the ability to detect biosignatures beyond   
   even 100 light years.   
      
   > Which is where?   
      
   I do not subscribe to your mental ill. Not sorry.   
      
   >> This is how life on earth has been detectable for billions of   
   >> years:   
      
   > Unprovable.   
      
   Lol!  It's already been proven!  Damn. You are *Such* an idiot!   
      
      
      
      
      
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