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   dart200 to Dude   
   =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Climate_Groups_Doing_Chi   
   19 Dec 25 11:26:55   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.conspiracy, alt.global-warming   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 12/19/25 9:46 AM, Dude wrote:   
   > On 12/18/2025 9:52 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 12/18/25 7:15 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 12/18/2025 5:29 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/18/25 5:06 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/18/2025 12:05 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 12/18/25 6:16 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 12/18/2025 12:42 AM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 12/17/25 4:53 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 12/17/2025 12:38 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 15:07:11 -0500, Wilson   
   >>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Twenty-six state attorneys general are asking the Justice   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Department to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> investigate whether two climate-focused nonprofit groups   
   >>>>>>>>>>> failed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> disclose lobbying for China.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> A letter sent Tuesday by the attorneys general cited   
   >>>>>>>>>>> “substantial   
   >>>>>>>>>>> evidence” that Energy Foundation China (EFC) and the Center   
   >>>>>>>>>>> for Climate   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Integrity (CCI) “have acted within the United States as   
   >>>>>>>>>>> unregistered   
   >>>>>>>>>>> agents of foreign principals.”   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> As if all that, true or not, has anything to do with us   
   >>>>>>>>>> climate change   
   >>>>>>>>>> problems.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> It has a lot to do with a conspiracy by China to cause panic in   
   >>>>>>>>> Western countries with a global warming hoax, at the same time   
   >>>>>>>>> promoting a road and belt initiative which will increase global   
   >>>>>>>>> warming.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> like what do u think the chinese gain by spreading a "hoax"?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What an incredibly naive question.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> seriously: explain ya dingus   
   >>>>>>   >   
   >>>>>>> oh no the   
   >>>>>>>> chinese are profiting by selling us solar panels? and bruh evs   
   >>>>>>>> are fucking sweet i'm never using an ice car as a daily again,   
   >>>>>>>> wish we had the chinese ones here to kick up the competition a   
   >>>>>>>> notch   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> also ... like dude. the chinese have like a 90% acceptance rate   
   >>>>>>>> of climate change. how is that even spreading a hoax?   
   >>>>>>> 90% of the Chinese will say they believe whatever they're told to   
   >>>>>>> say, much like here.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> u ever even met anyone from china? they are people too you know...   
   >>>>>> some of them highly educated even...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> heck, 60% of chinese believe they are *personally* experiencing   
   >>>>>> changes due to climate,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> One suggestion I read about to combat bad air pollution in China   
   >>>>> was to eliminate all charcoal fires within the city limits. Another   
   >>>>> suggestion I read about was to cut out all offensive weapons   
   >>>>> manufacturing and naval, air, and land invasion forces from the   
   >>>>> national budget.   
   >>>>>  > > so if ur claiming the CCP is spreading the climate change to hoax   
   >>>>>> literally everyone, including it's own population too: what's   
   >>>>>> their motivation there???   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> The first motivation I can think of is to sell to Americans cheap   
   >>>>> electric cars powered by batteries and chips made only in China.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> a) why would they think that when america tariffs the shit out of   
   >>>> external competition to it's car industry   
   >>>>   
   >>> Apparently it's working.   
   >>>  >   
   >>>   
   >>>> b) could've done that with gas cars too   
   >>>>   
   >>>> u haven't really tho this one thru much dude   
   >>>>   
   >>> The idea of purchasing a cheap Chinese electric car running on   
   >>> batteries made only in China is not a good idea. Be practical and   
   >>> just buy a basic American truck. See the job. Do the job.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Ford Maverick Hybrid Is the 2026 Motor Trend Truck of the Year   
   >>>   
   >>> https://tinyurl.com/36pwp2b7   
   >>>   
   >>> Our (Two-)Year Test of the Ford Maverick Hybrid Is Over: Here’s How   
   >>> It Went   
   >>>   
   >>> https://tinyurl.com/yucttnpr   
   >>>   
   >>> $28,145 MSRP   
   >>   
   >> ain't never purchasing an ice for daily driving again u americant   
   >>   
   > An all electric vehicle is not a good idea. Apparently, you have not   
      
   like i said: i already drive one daily, and it's fantastic   
      
   never buying an ice daily driver again.   
      
   > thought this through. First, Chinese cars are not for sale in the US,   
   > Amigo.   
   >   
   > The Biden administration's tariffs focused on new Chinese EV imports to   
   > deter future brands like BYD or Nio.   
   >   
   > Second, you have to charge them, where? At your apartment?   
      
   yes so my car is always charged fully when i wake up and distance it can   
   travel is enough for actually anything but literal road trips.   
      
   and i use the supercharger network when traveling. some people are   
   impatient and can't stand 20m every 2-2.5 hrs on a road trip. i don't   
   understand those people. and that time will only decrease as the   
   technology matures.   
      
   anything like a 2-3x power density discovery will wipe ICEs off the face   
   the planet   
      
   >   
   > Be practical - get a hybrid and get the best of both worlds. We get 45   
   > mpg in our Toyota Corolla Hybrid at $24,500 MSRP.   
      
      
   --   
   a burnt out swe investigating into why our tooling doesn't involve   
   basic semantic proofs like halting analysis   
      
   please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,   
      
   ~ nick   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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