XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.atheism   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/6/2026 3:27 PM, Attila wrote:   
   > On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 19:12:32 +0000, jojo  in   
   > alt.atheism with message-id   
   >    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:25:25 +0000, jojo  in   
   >>> alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>> <69fa4d24-72ac-055e-59f5-cf779b83d002@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Attila wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 15:14:20 -0600, Dawn Flood   
   >>>>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>>> <10jel7d$2atls$1@dont-email.me> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Venus, on the other hand, has an atmosphere like our World, Earth, but   
   >>>>>> unlike Earth, Venus has experienced a runaway greenhouse effect, and due   
   >>>>>> to massive amounts of CO2 gas, the noon temperature on Venus is around   
   >>>>>> 460-470°C, but since Venus has an atmosphere, its local midnight   
   >>>>>> temperatures, which occur 29 Earth days after the Sun has set on that   
   >>>>>> World, only drop a few degrees due almost entirely to the large presence   
   >>>>>> of carbon dioxide gas into Venus' atmosphere.  This is also the reason   
   >>>>>> why the temperatures at Venus' poles are almost identical to the   
   >>>>>> temperatures at its equator.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You are making an assumption here that CO2 is the only   
   >>>>> factor involved.  We have no idea what the entire ecosystem   
   >>>>> looks like on Venus and we won't until we actually go there.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> We have plants on Earth that convert CO2 back to O2 plus a   
   >>>>> lot of water that has O2 locked up as H2O and not available   
   >>>>> to be released as CO2.  What does Venus have, if anything?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Plus the Earth is tilted in reference to the Sun and thus   
   >>>>> seasons are involved.   Does Venus have anything similar?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> venus has a huge tilt i think..along the celestial ecliptic.   
   >>>> basically if earth was hit with a pea gun, venus was hit with a   
   >>>> cannon.   
   >>>   
   >>> I have no idea - the point is that more than one factor is   
   >>> involved and long distance analysis can only go so far.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> we have a pretty good idea about venus, its atmosphereic   
   >> composition and landed a craft there as well.   
   >>   
   >> its the closest planet to earth, pretty accessible.   
   >   
   > I am sure if we ever land in person we will find a lot of   
   > surprises.   
   >   
      
   Such will never happen.  At its surface, Venus has a pressure of 90   
   atmospheres and a temperature of 460C.  No life whatsoever exists on its   
   surface.   
      
   The Russians have landed spacecraft there; the pics are online.   
      
   Dawn   
      
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