XPost: alt.atheism, soc.history.ancient   
   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   JTEM wrote:   
   > On 1/8/26 1:02 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >> JTEM wrote:   
   >>> On 1/8/26 12:40 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> would you say that a miracle is something that defies   
   >>>   causality or that   
   >>>> it must be confined within the realm of causality?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> No.   
   >>>   
   >>> A miracle should be anything that's conventionally   
   >>> impossible, given the specific circumstances.   
   >>>   
   >>> Entire herds of elephants exist. They are not a miracle   
   >>> per se. But if an entire herd appeared in a crowded   
   >>> suburban neighborhood and a thousand ring doorbells,   
   >>> security cams & traffic cams could find not a trace of   
   >>> them getting there, nor any type of vehicle that might   
   >>> carry them, that would be a "Miracle." Would it not?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> depends right?   
   >   
   > No. Under the specific circumstances laid out, it would be   
   > a miracle.   
   >   
      
   is a miracle self generating or a source or catalyst is required?   
      
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