XPost: alt.global-warming, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   When federal funds become available -- and I have witnessed   
   this first hand -- people form organizations to collect that   
   money.   
      
   As an example, and this is what you're seeing with the "Solar"   
   industry, a billion years ago federal funds became available to   
   combat drugs. So a bunch of people formed a non-profit and   
   started cashing those checks for a drug rehabilitation program.   
   Well, eventually that drug money dried up but there were funds   
   available for education, so that drug program became a high   
   school. And I know because I went to that high school. And, yes,   
   it was a high school. And, yes, it wasn't originally a school   
   it was a drug program.   
      
   Same board. Different federal program sending the checks.   
      
   AND NOBODY in the government will police this. Which is why you   
   keep hearing about THIS congressman's family or THAT Senator's   
   family running some NGO, cashing big checks. It's because he   
   knows about funding sources better than the people who voted for   
   that money in the first place?  So they know it's there, they   
   know how to get it, how to qualify, which forms to fill out...   
   which back to scratch... so they start these organizations.   
      
   If elected officials are doing it now, and private individuals   
   have been doing it for generations, HOW is anyone capable of   
   believing that when the federal government made funds available   
   for solar a ton of sly-by-night organizations wouldn't be   
   created specifically to get those federal funds?   
      
   It's. How. Things. Work.   
      
   The solution is to have an investigative body look not just at   
   the organizations but the people.   
      
   Is anyone involved related to an insider in any way?   
      
   Does anyone involved have a history with such organizations?   
      
      
      
      
     AlleyCat wrote:   
      
   There definitely a place for solar, it's not a total scam   
   >   
   > Yes... in the PRIVATE sector. WE shouldn't be paying for these companies to   
   go   
   > bankrupt and never pay us back, while their executives rob the coffers and   
   > sell their stock and go live on a beach while growing old.   
   >   
   > ============================================================================   
   >   
   > 1. Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*   
   > 2. SpectraWatt ($500,000)*   
   > 3. Solyndra ($535 million)*   
   > 4. Beacon Power ($43 million)*   
   > 5. Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)   
   > 6. SunPower ($1.2 billion)   
   > 7. First Solar ($1.46 billion)   
   > 8. Babcock and Brown ($178 million)   
   > 9. EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*   
   > 10. Amonix ($5.9 million)   
   > 11. Fisker Automotive ($529 million)   
   > 12. Abound Solar ($400 million)*   
   > 13. A123 Systems ($279 million)*   
   > 14. Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*   
   > 15. Johnson Controls ($299 million)   
   > 16. Brightsource ($1.6 billion)   
   > 17. ECOtality ($126.2 million)   
   > 18. Raser Technologies ($33 million)*   
   > 19. Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*   
   > 20. Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*   
   > 21. Olsen's Crop Service and Mills Acquisition Company ($10m)*   
   > 22. Range Fuels ($80 million)*   
   > 23. Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*   
   > 24. Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*   
   > 25. Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*   
   > 26. GreenVolts ($500,000)   
   > 27. Vestas ($50 million)   
   > 28. LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)   
   > 29. Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*   
   > 30. Navistar ($39 million)   
   > 31. Satcon ($3 million)*   
   > 32. Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*   
   > 33. Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)   
   >   
   > =====   
   >   
   > Major Solar Contractors That Went Out of Business in 2023 & 2024   
   >   
   > Major Solar Bankruptcies as of November 2024 Include:   
   >   
   > 34. SunPower - Multiple States*   
   > 35. Pink Energy - Multiple States*   
   > 36. MC Solar - Modern Concepts - Florida*   
   > 37. Harness Power - California*   
   > 38. NM Solar Group - New Mexico*   
   > 39. ASA - American Solar Advantage - California*   
   > 40. Kuubix Energy - California*   
   > 41. Erus Energy - Arizona*   
   > 42. Infinity Energy - California*   
   > 43. Suntuity Renewables - Per Sunova - NJ, CA , TX*   
   > 44. ADT Solar - Multiple States*   
   > 45. Vision Solar - Multiple States*   
   > 46. Solcius - CA, NM, AZ, NV*   
   > 47. Sunworks, Inc. - CA*   
   > 48. Kayo Energy - AZ, CA, TX, FL*   
   > 49. iSun - CT*   
   > 50. Titan Solar Power - Multiple States*   
   > 51. Lumio Solar - Utah*   
   >   
   > =====   
   >   
   > California Company Closures:   
   >   
   > 52. ASA - American Solar Advantage - CA*   
   > 53. Bratton Solar- CA*   
   > 54. Canapoy Energy - CA*   
   > 55. Charged Up Energy - CA*   
   > 56. Enver Solar - CA*   
   > 57. Harness Power - CA*   
   > 58. GCI Solar - CA*   
   > 59. Green Nrg - CA*   
   > 60. Kuubix Energy - CA*   
   > 61. Peak Power USA - CA*   
   > 62. Penguin Home- CA*   
   > 63. Polar Solar - CA*   
   > 64. Professional Roofing and Solar - CA*   
   > 65. Sigora Home Solar - CA*   
   > 66. Solsun USA - CA*   
   > 67. Solar Advantage - CA*   
   > 68. Sullivan Solar Power - CA*   
   > 69. Sungrade Solar - CA*   
   > 70. SunPower - CA*   
   > 71. Sunstor Solar - CA*   
   > 72. RGS Energy - CA*   
   > 73. Solar Spectrum - CA*   
   > 74. Sunworks, Inc. - CA**   
   > 75. Swell Energy - CA*   
   > 76. United Solar Inc. - CA*   
   >   
   > =====   
   >   
   > Texas Company Closures:   
   >   
   > 77. American Sun*   
   > 78. Daybreak Solar Power*   
   > 79. Cosmo Solaris - DBA WNK Associates , Under Investigation*   
   > 80. Envirosolar*   
   > 81. Hitech Solar*   
   > 82. Integrity Solar*   
   > 83. Next Energy*   
   > 84. Speir Innovations*   
   > 85. TES Home Solar*   
   > 86. Texas Solar Broker LLC*   
   > 87. Texas Solar Integrated LLC*   
   > 88. Verisolar*   
   > 89. Vulcan Solar*   
   >   
   > =====   
   >   
   > Other States:   
   >   
   > 90. 3D Solar - Florida*   
   > 91. AAA Certified Solar - Nevada*   
   > 92. Accept Solar - MA*   
   > 93. ACE Solar Systems - AZ*   
   > 94. Arizona Solar Concepts - AZ*   
   > 95. Code Green Solar - NJ*   
   > 96. EcoMark Solar - CO*   
   > 97. Elan Solar - UT*   
   > 98. Electriq Power - FL*   
   > 99. Encor Solar - UT*   
   > 100. Gulf South Solar - LA*   
   > 101. Moxie Solar - IA*   
   > 102. Refresh Energy Group - CO*   
   > 103. Saveco Solar - UT*   
   > 104. Solar Is Freedom - OH*   
   > 105. Solar Titan USA - TN*   
   > 106. SolarDot - FL*   
   > 107. Solarworks - AZ*   
   > 108. Solular, LLC - NJ*   
   > 109. Utah Solar Group - UT*   
   > 110. Voltage Solar Power - FL*   
   > 111. Zenernet - AZ*   
   >   
   > *Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.   
   >   
      
      
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